An ethical question. What would U do if? Really?

[biteme]

Say for instance, That all the oil reserves in the world were depleted. There was only one place to get the oil and the owners forced children into slavery to get this oil so that we could get it at reasonable prices. If they were to pay a fair wage to adults for this work, the oil prices would skyrocket and your standard of living would take a plunge. (All hypothetical, pretend there is no other solutions). You would no longer be able to own more than one car, many of your fancy toys you would have to do without. Basically, you would live a spartan life but would not starve. Would you protest and demand that they stop using children? Or would you do nothing and continue to enjoy your very comfortable lifestyles at the expense of these abused children?

 

[KillahBee]

do nothing and continue to enjoy my life.

 

[*MissFit*]

I wouldnt care

 

[theoak01]

I would do nothing.

I learned that all the bitching one person does means shit, and besides if I stopped using it,other people wouldnt and then id be living a shit life and they would have it made

 

[biteme]

Doesn't surprise me at the responses so far. Same things on the diamond thread. People are evil in general. I will pull up the study where in a laboratory setting, the vast majority of people shocked others by pressing a button that sent electical volts through their body. They did this when they thought noone would see just because they were curious and had the power to harm someone without repercussions. You are all going to hell.

 

[biteme]

I would do nothing.

I learned that all the bitching one person does means shit, and besides if I stopped using it,other people wouldnt and then id be living a shit life and they would have it made

No, Rob. You'd still get the oil, just have to pay a much higher price and your standard of living would plummet. But the children would be set free from abuse.

 

[jackangel]

is there an option to make those children work harder?

my new fucking hummer doesn't run on potato peels, you know.

 

[*MissFit*]

Let me live in my bubble

 

[theoak01]

No, Rob. You'd still get the oil, just have to pay a much higher price and your standard of living would plummet. But the children would be set free from abuse.

ah I get ya now, meh Id still buy it cheap,sounds bad but there is so much crap we buy now that kids make without a second thought,why worry about them getting me oil

 

[jackangel]

canadiancute, if you had a choice between gaining 100lbs of fat and allowing 300 young children to live, or staying lean but sacrificing those children...

how fast would you choose to kill those poor little bastards?

 

[BrothaBill]

Doesn't surprise me at the responses so far. Same things on the diamond thread. People are evil in general. I will pull up the study where in a laboratory setting, the vast majority of people shocked others by pressing a button that sent electical volts through their body. They did this when they thought noone would see just because they were curious and had the power to harm someone without repercussions. You are all going to hell.

LOL, people arent evil, in fact, everyone is essentially good, no need to be so negative. Besides the results of that study was more the emphasis of how people have the tendency to follow authority, ie the white coat researcher telling them to continue. And there were also those who refused to shock them. And thats a very old study as the ethics boards on research have prohibited that as unethical.
There are numerous discussions boards that debate solely ethical dilemmas that are much more complex than your hypothetical and there are people who actually discuss them in very thought out ways. You should check them out. Youre on the wrong board if you expect much from the quick responses that are usually given here.

 

[biteme]

If there is a hell, the majority of people from EF will certainly spend time there.

 

[theoak01]

If there is a hell, the majority of people from EF will certainly spend time there.

you should come to it will be fun

 

[jackangel]

there is a hell, and a lot of EF people already spend time there.

it's called canada.

 

[biteme]

LOL, people arent evil, in fact, everyone is essentially good, no need to be so negative. Besides the results of that study was more the emphasis of how people have the tendency to follow authority, ie the white coat researcher telling them to continue. And there were also those who refused to shock them. And thats a very old study as the ethics boards on research have prohibited that as unethical.
There are numerous discussions boards that debate solely ethical dilemmas that are much more complex than your hypothetical and there are people who actually discuss them in very thought out ways. You should check them out. Youre on the wrong board if you expect much from the quick responses that are usually given here.

Well, we'll just have to disagree. The bible being a joke to most of you, the author's said that mankind is inherently evil and from my experienes, I believe it. I dig way beneath the surface of things to form my opinion.

 

[*MissFit*]

Well that would never come up in reality.. but of course.. i would gain the weight..

i'm not heartless..

canadiancute, if you had a choice between gaining 100lbs of fat and allowing 300 young children to live, or staying lean but sacrificing those children...

how fast would you choose to kill those poor little bastards?

 

[theoak01]

Well that would never come up in reality.. but of course.. i would gain the weight..

i'm not heartless..

you would still be hot,dont worry

 

[biteme]

Let me live in my bubble

Nope. Can't do that.

 

[jackangel]

Well that would never come up in reality.. but of course.. i would gain the weight..

i'm not heartless..

of course, i know that.

what about 200 lbs of fat?

 

[*MissFit*]

for children or animals i would do anything.. but as i said.. that really isin't reality

 

[biteme]

Well that would never come up in reality.. but of course.. i would gain the weight..

i'm not heartless..

Are you sure about that? If they spotlight were on you, you'd gain the weight, put as part of a group, you wouldn't feel guilty about children being abused so that you could enjoy your higher standard of living? Go ahead make excuses, everyone esle does.

 

[BrothaBill]

Well, we'll just have to disagree. The bible being a joke to most of you, the author's said that mankind is inherently evil and from my experienes, I believe it. I dig way beneath the surface of things to form my opinion.

Well theres no need to constantly post threads to make them feel bad about themselves b/c most cant change the world and the bad things that happen all the time. No need to dwell in the negative aspects of life, it serves no useful purpose to most.
If you believe people are evil, then you'll find ample evidence to support that position. I try to find the good in people as I think its a better way to go through life.

 

[biteme]

Well theres no need to constantly post threads to make them feel bad about themselves b/c most cant change the world and the bad things that happen all the time. No need to dwell in the negative aspects of life, it serves no useful purpose to most.
If you believe people are evil, then you'll find ample evidence to support that position. I try to find the good in people as I think its a better way to go through life.

I'm a realist and I feel a need to face the truth.

 

[biteme]

Well theres no need to constantly post threads to make them feel bad about themselves b/c most cant change the world and the bad things that happen all the time. No need to dwell in the negative aspects of life, it serves no useful purpose to most.
If you believe people are evil, then you'll find ample evidence to support that position. I try to find the good in people as I think its a better way to go through life.

THey could do something about it in the hypothetical question I posed, but refused to, which means even if the could do anything, they wouldn't.

 

[*MissFit*]

I worked my ass off... to get where i am.

I have lived on my own since i was 16, and worked at MCDONALD's. YES Micky D's to pay rent and put myself through post secondary education.

Everyone has their crosses to bare. so yes i do lack a certain level of empathy at times for others.. only because i know that even when everything looks like it's stacked against you, you can still come out on top.

Posing fake ethical questions.. doesn't really make me feel bad about myself, nor does it make me question my integrity.

 

[WODIN]

Demand that they stop using children.

 

[biteme]

for children or animals i would do anything.. but as i said.. that really isin't reality

It is reality. To borrow a quote from a movie, "You people can't handle reality." (PLatoon) or "You can't hadle the truth." (A few good men)

 

[Priests_Of _Hiroshima]

under it all.the moose .the hairspray.the old navy ringer t-shirt.we are all killers.notice your canine teeth you have?for shredding and tearing meat.there is a reson for that.humans have the ability to reason and think objectively.this is the only thing that separates us from the crow eating the roadkill on the highway.the lion and his blood stained chin.good and evil are objective or relative.things are not clear cut.to only see good or evil makes you ignorant.both exist as much as the other.this is the way it is.

 

[*MissFit*]

Sorry no dogs poop in my shoes

It is reality. To borrow a quote from a movie, "You people can't handle reality." (PLatoon) or "You can't hadle the truth." (A few good men)

 

[biteme]

Demand that they stop using children.

Exactly. But, the majority of people here woudn't do that if it meant that their standard of living would plummet. Maybe this is why American is hated by many?

 

[jackangel]

don't get obnoxious biteme. your arrogance is shining through.

 

[WODIN]

Exactly. But, the majority of people here woudn't do that if it meant that their standard of living would plummet. Maybe this is why American is hated by many?

First thanks to the fags on the bomb squad for making it just that much more difficult to read a post.

I would still protest and work for change that would lead them to accept the lowered standard of living. It's not a matter of forcing people to accept this as it is a matter of moral values vs material values.

 

[courtneybcca]

Doesn't surprise me at the responses so far. Same things on the diamond thread. People are evil in general. I will pull up the study where in a laboratory setting, the vast majority of people shocked others by pressing a button that sent electical volts through their body. They did this when they thought noone would see just because they were curious and had the power to harm someone without repercussions. You are all going to hell.

I watched the video of that experiment a few weeks back. It was really sad to see 65% of people shocked the other person until death. Of course they didn't actually kill anybody but the fixed the experiment so that the person pushing the button could hear another person crying out after they pushed the button. After like 310 you dont hear anything. And 65% of the people went all the way to 435 (around that). It was really sad to see.

I would expect those responses about the oil from the american peeps but I am very surprised about canadian cute joining in. American's (I am generalizing) mostly don't really care about other countries.

 

[biteme]

under it all.the moose .the hairspray.the old navy ringer t-shirt.we are all killers.notice your canine teeth you have?for shredding and tearing meat.there is a reson for that.humans have the ability to reason and think objectively.this is the only thing that separates us from the crow eating the roadkill on the highway.the lion and his blood stained chin.good and evil are objective or relative.things are not clear cut.to only see good or evil makes you ignorant.both exist as much as the other.this is the way it is.

Yes, Some of the mass murderers, serial killers that I have read about have this philosphy. They see no difference between killing a human and a chicken.

 

[Priests_Of _Hiroshima]

Exactly. But, the majority of people here woudn't do that if it meant that their standard of living would plummet. Maybe this is why American is hated by many?

yes of course.indirectly though.thats what is come down to i believe.americans are spoiled thats the mere mentions of conservation or sacrifices to aviod things like war causes them to rally around the chiefs that will let them keep thier H2 or saggy pants.other places are bad as well. but americas accounts for 25% of the wastes on the planet.

 

[biteme]

don't get obnoxious biteme. your arrogance is shining through.

I'm speaking from the heart.

 

[BrothaBill]

THey could do something about it in the hypothetical question I posed, but refused to, which means even if the could do anything, they wouldn't.

I didnt see responses that indicated your conclusion of that, maybe some flippant responses that arent serious, besides your hypothetical is way too simplistic as to only limit an either/or choice. You are seriously in the wrong forum to discuss these issues, if you were seriously needing a well thought out discussion best to stick to an ethics discussion board. Methinks you are just trying to insult people by pigeonholing them with a hypothetical which cant be answered with a completely honest position. Any answer they give is easily attacked. Again for a real discussion of ethics you should try a better forum and an intelligent reasoning of resolving ethical dilemmas can take place. Ive been to them often and I think they might help you understand things a little bit better.

 

[biteme]

I didnt see responses that indicated your conclusion of that, maybe some flippant responses that arent serious, besides your hypothetical is way too simplistic as to only limit an either/or choice. You are seriously in the wrong forum to discuss these issues, if you were seriously needing a well thought out discussion best to stick to an ethics discussion board. Methinks you are just trying to insult people by pigeonholing them with a hypothetical which cant be answered with a completely honest position. Any answer they give is easily attacked. Again for a real discussion of ethics you should try a better forum and an intelligent reasoning of resolving ethical dilemmas can take place. Ive been to them often and I think they might help you understand things a little bit better.

Wrong again. The question was very easy for myself and Wodin to answer.

 

[strangebrew]

I would protest and I would live without oil.

 

[jackangel]

yes, and for me too.

i would go and save all those children in-between shifts at the research lab, where i would come up with the bestest-top-secret alternative energy source.

afterwards, i would do some lines of coke off my hot assistant's sweet ass.

 

[biteme]

Curling, what would you do? You're the sole Chrisitan on this board (I'm not convinced of anything yet).

 

[biteme]

I would protest and I would live without oil.

Very easy to answer, wasn't it? I think some people just don't want to face the truth about themselves.

 

[strangebrew]

Very easy to answer, wasn't it? I think some people just don't want to face the truth about themselves.

Personally, I would find something like that more disturbing than a mass killing. Death doesn't bother me much.