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Americans Appreciate FOX News

I am no fan of Noam Chomsky, but his book "Manufacturing Consent" is absolutely the best media / propaganda book ever written. It is truly amazing, and once you read it, you'll never look at media the same way.

The fact that FOX is preferred over CNN, ABC, CBS or whoever, is more of a testament to the stunning stupidity of Americans who actually think there is a difference.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
The fact that FOX is preferred over CNN, ABC, CBS or whoever, is more of a testament to the stunning stupidity of Americans who actually think there is a difference.
 
Give the people what they want, to include nice looking info babes.

They are dominating the voter's market, I'm waiting for someone to say because the viewers are dumb.

From the article:

"FNCs Total Day average of 820,000 viewers made up 54% of the cable news pie, nearly doubling CNN's 31% (468,000 viewers) and more than tripling MSNBC's 15% share (226,000 viewers). * "
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
The fact that FOX is preferred over CNN, ABC, CBS or whoever, is more of a testament to the stunning stupidity of Americans who actually think there is a difference.

My God Matt, why do you have this superiority complex? You are no smarter than many of the folks who watch FOX. I know you're no smarter than me. People make choices, just because you don't agree with them don't write them off as stupid. It really makes you look petty.
 
Longhorn85 said:
My God Matt, why do you have this superiority complex? You are no smarter than many of the folks who watch FOX. I know you're no smarter than me. People make choices, just because you don't agree with them don't write them off as stupid. It really makes you look petty.

I cannot fathom the depth of the uselessness of a discussion of my intelligence vs. the average fox news viewer. So let's just stick to being informed rather than trying to use a chat board to measure intelligence.

The following are true:

1-The sources of info are the same.
2-The need to please advertisers is the same.
3-The need to please sources of information in order to get 'quality' stories is the same.

Because of 2 and 3 above, no news source is going to report objectively or objectionably on key sources, nor will they be overly contentious. Source pleasing and advertising are the name of the game.

Therefore we can conclude:

Major media outlets are as useless to gleaning information about the state of affairs as reading tea leaves.

Preference means precisely jack-shit given these constraints as a measure of quality.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
I cannot fathom the depth of the uselessness of a discussion of my intelligence vs. the average fox news viewer.

I'm sure many smart people I know who watch Fox would have similar condescending expectations for someone who paid money to post on a musclehead internet chatboard.

The bottom line is that Fox News is just another of a wide spectrum of news sources available in the United States free market system. Discerning viewers sample from many different sources before drawing their own conclusion. We really needed Fox for balance and I hope their success leads to another right-leaning network.
 
Longhorn85 said:
I'm sure many smart people I know who watch Fox would have similar condescending expectations for someone who paid money to post on a musclehead internet chatboard.

The bottom line is that Fox News is just another of a wide spectrum of news sources available in the United States free market system. Discerning viewers sample from many different sources before drawing their own conclusion. We really needed Fox for balance and I hope their success leads to another right-leaning network.

I'd consider myself more libertarian than the other parties but from what I have read about your "right-leaning" ideals, you're the type that gives our country a bad name
 
Longhorn85 said:
I'm sure many smart people I know who watch Fox would have similar condescending expectations for someone who paid money to post on a musclehead internet chatboard.

The bottom line is that Fox News is just another of a wide spectrum of news sources available in the United States free market system. Discerning viewers sample from many different sources before drawing their own conclusion. We really needed Fox for balance and I hope their success leads to another right-leaning network.

Have you watched the news lately? :confused:

I can't remember the last time I saw a well-thought out story that presented facts that would be good for the pubic awareness...

everything now is straight opinions or sensationalized nonsense, they jump to conclusions that are so illogical it is appalling...
 
Their Steroid BS report should be enough to realize how stupid they are. Not any better, not any worse. Just the same as ZNN, ABC or whatever you want.
 
Becoming said:
Have you watched the news lately? .

Like I said, smart folks use various sources: internet, cable tv, network, newspapers, movies (ie Michael Moore), foreign new sources, etc

hell, I even listen to NPR sometimes on the way to work until I can't stomach it anymore.

In America, more than anywhere else, we have these options
 
manny78 said:
Their Steroid BS report should be enough to realize how stupid they are. Not any better, not any worse. Just the same as ZNN, ABC or whatever you want.

Those of you who use steriods didn't like this report. It presented steroid use in a light that may prevent some kid from sticking himself with a needle in an attempt to get chicks.
 
considering a lot of those sources are fiction, I wouldn't call them "sources" at all....

I use a lot of those too, but I wouldn't refer to any of them as "sources for information" with out some extra fact finding of my own....

half of it you got to just realize you really don't know WTF is going on....
 
Longhorn85 said:
Those of you who use steriods didn't like this report. It presented steroid use in a light that may prevent some kid from sticking himself with a needle in an attempt to get chicks.

I know you aren't dumb enough to actually believe the tripe you wrote above. If you are then I have news for you. These kids aren't dumb enough to believe that bullshit.
 
strongsmartsexy said:
I know you aren't dumb enough to actually believe the tripe you wrote above. If you are then I have news for you. These kids aren't dumb enough to believe that bullshit.

Kids will keep dong stupid shit to take shortcuts cause that is what they see the adults doing...

hmm, kind of like broadcasting worthless shit instead of working hard to become something people would really value...

interesting...
 
Becoming said:
I use a lot of those too, but I wouldn't refer to any of them as "sources for information" with out some extra fact finding of my own....

...

Fact finding on your own huh? what do you do? Fly to Iraq an conduct an interview with Saddam Hussein?
 
Longhorn85 said:
Fact finding on your own huh? what do you do? Fly to Iraq an conduct an interview with Saddam Hussein?



Do you have something against using international news agencies for reliable information?
 
Longhorn85 said:
Fact finding on your own huh? what do you do? Fly to Iraq an conduct an interview with Saddam Hussein?

No actually that is a good example of where you really DON'T know what is going on... Any source here or international might have reason to make shit up.. All you can do is hear it and take it with a grain of salt....

But thanks for jumping to conlusions.... (hmmm, maybe that is why you like the news nowadays)


My personal favorite is how they put on stories about "big health breakthrough" news - when I know for a fact the studies they are talking about are either BS with crappy protocols or so premature in their development it is worthless to discuss...

Vitamins help tumors grow! - No shit, tumors are made out of cells just like you... fucking morons....
 
Fox news has some nice babes that would make great high dollar hookers.

Cnn has a couple too.

Msnbc babes for the most part remind be of lipstick lesbians...or rather I think of that when I see the chicks on msnbc.

on Cnbc I just wanna throw fifities at the chicks reporting the stock reports and scream suck my massive cock you slutty hoes!

but that would really freak out my kids so I suppress that urge.
 
Becoming said:
everything now is straight opinions or sensationalized nonsense, they jump to conclusions that are so illogical it is appalling...

need to please advertisers - viewers are drawn to sensationalism....if anyone ever doubts this, remember that Fear Factor is a success to advertisers,

"Manufacturing Consent" should be required reading.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
"Manufacturing Consent" should be required reading.

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(lol, j/k)
 
Fox News is a joke...while other news shows 'MAY' have a liberal slant FOX News is a blatantly far-right leaning mess. I have yet to hear then strongly criticise ANY Republican policy....while I hears pro's and cons on other news shows....Yes...people who get their news solely from FOX are dummies....
 
hooch said:
...Yes...people who get their news solely from FOX are dummies....

I never suggested that FOX be anyone's sole news source. Many of you posted on here to criticize Fox but you haven't read a word of what I said. Multiple sources is what is best, including international which is what I said several posts back.

Fox is an integral part of the mix, a rare conservative-leaning voice, and very popular amongst viewers, and it isn't because they are dumb.
 
FOX News has more of an "entertainment factor" than anything else...hence its attraction....I watch it...I chuckle at the constant subtle "digs" at anything remotely left leaning....
 
Longhorn85 said:
Fox is an integral part of the mix, a rare conservative-leaning voice, .

Thats fine...just don't go around pro-claiming yourself "Fair and Balanced" when you obviously are not...
 
CNN is left slanted...
LMAO

The USA is so fucked up a central opinion, reasonably blank station like CNN is considered left.

If that's left, then what the fuck is right? We don't have fox here but I bet it could be a good comedy channel.
 
hooch said:
Thats fine...just don't go around pro-claiming yourself "Fair and Balanced" when you obviously are not...

CNN, NBC, CBS and others also consider themselves to be Fair and Balanced while they are not. Fox is arguably more balanced.
 
Longhorn85 said:
Those of you who use steriods didn't like this report. It presented steroid use in a light that may prevent some kid from sticking himself with a needle in an attempt to get chicks.

Ok so as long as you reach your goal it's ok to use false propaganda ? So we should air reports about people blowing up their brain cause they spend the last 2 years eating junk food on a daily basis even if there's no correlation ? Or what about stating speeding causes cancer so people won't drive at 200 mp/h ? Come on, you're far more intelligent.... making up stuff is weak and works on ignorant fools.
 
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