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dasher

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Hi Guys,
Ive been a member for 2 years and never posted before. You guys are great and I a really fortunate to be a member. however
I do have a question that i really cant seem to find an answer.
I am 40 yrs old. 212 about 13%bf. Ive been doing for 5 weeks
40mg Anavar
400mg Primo
300MG Prop
I cant not believe the amazing results. Best that i have ever experienced in ten yrs of Gear. I tried EQ, winny, HGH, but this cocktail blows them out of the water.

Ok heres my Question. I want to Peak(look my best) mid July. So I was going to do two 6 week cycles with 6 weeks off in between. This should bring me to the end of july. I may go 8 weeks on the 2nd one. I this the best and safest or should i just go straight through till July and just drop anavar after 6 weeks for a 6 week break and than pick up the var the last 6 weeks for a total of 18 weeks on prop and primo and two 6 weekers on var with a 6 week break of var in the middle? All comments appreciated guys.
 
dasher said:
Hi Guys,
Ive been a member for 2 years and never posted before. You guys are great and I a really fortunate to be a member. however
I do have a question that i really cant seem to find an answer.
I am 40 yrs old. 212 about 13%bf. Ive been doing for 5 weeks
40mg Anavar
400mg Primo
300MG Prop
I cant not believe the amazing results. Best that i have ever experienced in ten yrs of Gear. I tried EQ, winny, HGH, but this cocktail blows them out of the water.

Ok heres my Question. I want to Peak(look my best) mid July. So I was going to do two 6 week cycles with 6 weeks off in between. This should bring me to the end of july. I may go 8 weeks on the 2nd one. I this the best and safest or should i just go straight through till July and just drop anavar after 6 weeks for a 6 week break and than pick up the var the last 6 weeks for a total of 18 weeks on prop and primo and two 6 weekers on var with a 6 week break of var in the middle? All comments appreciated guys.
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dasher said:
Hi Guys,
Ive been a member for 2 years and never posted before. You guys are great and I a really fortunate to be a member. however
I do have a question that i really cant seem to find an answer.
I am 40 yrs old. 212 about 13%bf. Ive been doing for 5 weeks
40mg Anavar
400mg Primo
300MG Prop
I cant not believe the amazing results. Best that i have ever experienced in ten yrs of Gear. I tried EQ, winny, HGH, but this cocktail blows them out of the water.

Ok heres my Question. I want to Peak(look my best) mid July. So I was going to do two 6 week cycles with 6 weeks off in between. This should bring me to the end of july. I may go 8 weeks on the 2nd one. I this the best and safest or should i just go straight through till July and just drop anavar after 6 weeks for a 6 week break and than pick up the var the last 6 weeks for a total of 18 weeks on prop and primo and two 6 weekers on var with a 6 week break of var in the middle? All comments appreciated guys.
Any Help Guys??
 
dasher said:
Hi Guys,
Ive been a member for 2 years and never posted before. You guys are great and I a really fortunate to be a member. however
I do have a question that i really cant seem to find an answer.
I am 40 yrs old. 212 about 13%bf. Ive been doing for 5 weeks
40mg Anavar
400mg Primo
300MG Prop
I cant not believe the amazing results. Best that i have ever experienced in ten yrs of Gear. I tried EQ, winny, HGH, but this cocktail blows them out of the water.

Ok heres my Question. I want to Peak(look my best) mid July. So I was going to do two 6 week cycles with 6 weeks off in between. This should bring me to the end of july. I may go 8 weeks on the 2nd one. I this the best and safest or should i just go straight through till July and just drop anavar after 6 weeks for a 6 week break and than pick up the var the last 6 weeks for a total of 18 weeks on prop and primo and two 6 weekers on var with a 6 week break of var in the middle? All comments appreciated guys.

How many cycles have you done?
I'd drop the Var after six weeks. It's a great kick start AND a great wrap up steroid. But it REALLY jacks up your Cholesterol. So take a Var Break.

You can stay on Primo for 3-4 months. From now to July might be pushing it. Test Prop Is another 3-4 month max cycle. From there you will want to cut. So cardio is key the last 4-6 weeks. Then if you are gutsy, run 20mg/ED of Halotestin for the last 4 weeks. Halo will harden you up like concrete.

The real question at hand here is are you prepared to deal with the necessary PCT that will be required after your cycle? You are going to be
drained. What do you have planned for PCT?

I would run it straight through until July 15. Then pay the piper. Rather than 2 shorty cycles. You are pushing the envelope by going 16 weaks, but it has been successfully done. Get ALL necessary Supps and PCT products in hand before you start.
 
Var/Primo/Test Cyp will be my next cycle
 
halfcenturian said:
How many cycles have you done?
I'd drop the Var after six weeks. It's a great kick start AND a great wrap up steroid. But it REALLY jacks up your Cholesterol. So take a Var Break.

You can stay on Primo for 3-4 months. From now to July might be pushing it. Test Prop Is another 3-4 month max cycle. From there you will want to cut. So cardio is key the last 4-6 weeks. Then if you are gutsy, run 20mg/ED of Halotestin for the last 4 weeks. Halo will harden you up like concrete.

The real question at hand here is are you prepared to deal with the necessary PCT that will be required after your cycle? You are going to be
drained. What do you have planned for PCT?

I would run it straight through until July 15. Then pay the piper. Rather than 2 shorty cycles. You are pushing the envelope by going 16 weaks, but it has been successfully done. Get ALL necessary Supps and PCT products in hand before you start.
Thanks Half C.
I have done about 7 cycles. My Cholesteral is about 280 now after being on var for 5 weeks. I only have nolvedex for PCT. So I hear ya about straight through till July...but if i took the month of april off and went may through July? (8 weeks) do you think that will hardly shut me down and have less sides...thanks
 
dasher said:
Thanks HalhC.
I have done about 7 cycles. My Cholesteral is about 280 now after being on var for 5 weeks. I only have nolvedex for PCT. So I hear ya about straight through till July...but if i took the month of april off and went may through July? (8 weeks) do you think that will hardly shut me down and have less sides...thanks

If you run the cycle non stop except the break with var i wuold get some better pct , hcg and clomid , im late late 30's and i do one 16 weeker a year which my pct has to include the products listed or i just dont recover their are other options but IMO nolva alone is not enuff , you dont wont to crash and lose your hard earned gains coz the long cycles shut you down more.

Brad.
 
hesnobradpitt said:
If you run the cycle non stop except the break with var i wuold get some better pct , hcg and clomid , im late late 30's and i do one 16 weeker a year which my pct has to include the products listed or i just dont recover their are other options but IMO nolva alone is not enuff , you dont wont to crash and lose your hard earned gains coz the long cycles shut you down more.

Brad.
Thanks Brad,
what do you think of two 6 weekers....
 
hesnobradpitt said:
Not much .
I dont think you are taking full advantage of the primo at 6 .

Brad.
How do I get my primo finished. I am on week 5 now. I wanted to stop the var and prop test and have another cycle of prop/var/test my 15th.
 
dasher said:
How do I get my primo finished. I am on week 5 now. I wanted to stop the var and prop test and have another cycle of prop/var/test my 15th.


Just stop the Var for now. Take some Krill / fish/ flax oil. 2000mg niacin/ ED policosanol and a liver sup like AX perfect cycle (NAC, ALA, Silymarin). For the next 6 weeks and run alipid test again. You will be amazed!

You can stay on the Test and Primo until July. If you want to go on HRT just drop the Primo and ramp down test over a month to about 150mg/wk of Test Enth. or Cyp. NO PCT, DOG!!! You will need HCG so get on it ASAP.
Mostly have to go intrnl for that anymore. Order plenty.

(Try the Halo for the last 4 weeks before you go off cycle)
Un-Fucking-believeable shit. :evil: :qt: :chomp: :evil: :qt: :chomp:
 
halfcenturian said:
Just stop the Var for now. Take some Krill / fish/ flax oil. 2000mg niacin/ ED policosanol and a liver sup like AX perfect cycle (NAC, ALA, Silymarin). For the next 6 weeks and run alipid test again. You will be amazed!

You can stay on the Test and Primo until July. If you want to go on HRT just drop the Primo and ramp down test over a month to about 150mg/wk of Test Enth. or Cyp. NO PCT, DOG!!! You will need HCG so get on it ASAP.
Mostly have to go intrnl for that anymore. Order plenty.

(Try the Halo for the last 4 weeks before you go off cycle)
Un-Fucking-believeable shit. :evil: :qt: :chomp: :evil: :qt: :chomp:
Cool. I will run primo and prop through July. I rather not go on hrt. Is that something once you start you can not stop? Also after 6 weeks off var can i go on it again till mid July? Thanks for your input man..much appreciated ;)
 
Stay on, thats my advice. Your plan to drop the var and pick it back up is fine. But to drop the primo after 6 wks is kind of pointless, and IMO your better off staying on than dealing with hormone fluctuation and shifting blood levels by fucking around coming off and then going right back on. 18 wks straight is fine. And as much as I'd hate to break it to ya, at your age recovery is much harder, you need better PCT than just nolvadex, and you'll need longer time off in between cycles.
 
abolish the weak said:
Stay on, thats my advice. Your plan to drop the var and pick it back up is fine. But to drop the primo after 6 wks is kind of pointless, and IMO your better off staying on than dealing with hormone fluctuation and shifting blood levels by fucking around coming off and then going right back on. 18 wks straight is fine. And as much as I'd hate to break it to ya, at your age recovery is much harder, you need better PCT than just nolvadex, and you'll need longer time off in between cycles.

Thanks for the input. 18 weeks straight huh? No cholest or liver issues? If i do stay on 18 weeks and just do 12 weeks of anavar with a 6 week break in between, what do you recommend in July? Novadex, clomid hcg?
 
dasher said:
Thanks for the input. 18 weeks straight huh? No cholest or liver issues? If i do stay on 18 weeks and just do 12 weeks of anavar with a 6 week break in between, what do you recommend in July? Novadex, clomid hcg?
Yes all the above ,hit it from every angle .

Brad.
 
dasher said:
Thanks for the input. 18 weeks straight huh? No cholest or liver issues? If i do stay on 18 weeks and just do 12 weeks of anavar with a 6 week break in between, what do you recommend in July? Novadex, clomid hcg?


Take those supps I mentioned above and you won't have any major lipid or liver damage.
Have ALL your PCT ready to go. I would still ramp down the test in any event over 3 weeks after you stop everything else: 400mg/wk, to 200, 100, OFF. Then start agressive PCT.
I think you are smart to wait for HRT. You can start HRT around age 50.
You really NEED it then. Good luck!
 
halfcenturian said:
Take those supps I mentioned above and you won't have any major lipid or liver damage.
Have ALL your PCT ready to go. I would still ramp down the test in any event over 3 weeks after you stop everything else: 400mg/wk, to 200, 100, OFF. Then start agressive PCT.
I think you are smart to wait for HRT. You can start HRT around age 50.
You really NEED it then. Good luck!
Nice and Do the var a the last 6 weeks of this 18 weeker right/
 
id stay on the primo @400mg wk straight through as thats not even a high amount of that aas. either drop the prop to 100-150mg wk for the middle 6 wks or switch to P.P.'s derma. and drop the var the middle 6 wks. go back to your original doses for the final 6 wks. add in some hcg @250iu 2 x per wk straight through to the last week of the last 6 wks. the 1st week after the final 6 wks- arimidex at 1 tab per day / sustain as directed for 4 wks plus consider the other supps tghat have been posted about lately. P.P.'s products like endoamp, omega's creatine and amp02, P.F.'s post cycle, unleashed, and they have some very good creatine also.
 
searay said:
id stay on the primo @400mg wk straight through as thats not even a high amount of that aas. either drop the prop to 100-150mg wk for the middle 6 wks or switch to P.P.'s derma. and drop the var the middle 6 wks. go back to your original doses for the final 6 wks. add in some hcg @250iu 2 x per wk straight through to the last week of the last 6 wks. the 1st week after the final 6 wks- arimidex at 1 tab per day / sustain as directed for 4 wks plus consider the other supps tghat have been posted about lately. P.P.'s products like endoamp, omega's creatine and amp02, P.F.'s post cycle, unleashed, and they have some very good creatine also.
Searay thanks for the straight forward detailed advice thats the kind of answer i was looking for? Just one thing. Dropping the middle 6 weeks from 300g of prop to 150mg than back to 300mg the final 6 weeks, just curious of the reasoning behind that.
 
dasher said:
Searay thanks for the straight forward detailed advice thats the kind of answer i was looking for? Just one thing. Dropping the middle 6 weeks from 300g of prop to 150mg than back to 300mg the final 6 weeks, just curious of the reasoning behind that.

well its more of an hrt dose, 200mg wk would be better but since ur gonna be on primo i was tryin to get your overall dose down. its a good question and maybe you could even consider 200mg prop/ 200mg primo wk during the second 6wks. its a tough delema in what ur tryin to accomplish. i think id lean towards the derma/primo for the second 6 wks. but thats just me.
 
searay said:
well its more of an hrt dose, 200mg wk would be better but since ur gonna be on primo i was tryin to get your overall dose down. its a good question and maybe you could even consider 200mg prop/ 200mg primo wk during the second 6wks. its a tough delema in what ur tryin to accomplish. i think id lean towards the derma/primo for the second 6 wks. but thats just me.
Dermacaine and Primo for the 2nd 2 weeks. I like that. Tan back to prop 300 mg and primo 400mg for the final 6??
 
dasher said:
Hi Guys,
Ive been a member for 2 years and never posted before. You guys are great and I a really fortunate to be a member. however
I do have a question that i really cant seem to find an answer.
I am 40 yrs old. 212 about 13%bf. Ive been doing for 5 weeks
40mg Anavar
400mg Primo
300MG Prop
I cant not believe the amazing results. Best that i have ever experienced in ten yrs of Gear. I tried EQ, winny, HGH, but this cocktail blows them out of the water.

Ok heres my Question. I want to Peak(look my best) mid July. So I was going to do two 6 week cycles with 6 weeks off in between. This should bring me to the end of july. I may go 8 weeks on the 2nd one. I this the best and safest or should i just go straight through till July and just drop anavar after 6 weeks for a 6 week break and than pick up the var the last 6 weeks for a total of 18 weeks on prop and primo and two 6 weekers on var with a 6 week break of var in the middle? All comments appreciated guys.
you guys rock http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=8024490#
chomp
 
good combo IMO, what kind of primo are you using, UG or Pharm? out of curiosity. If its pharm 400-600 is usually ideal
 
fitwitlem said:
good combo IMO, what kind of primo are you using, UG or Pharm? out of curiosity. If its pharm 400-600 is usually ideal
Its Pharm. I mixed it with 49mg of var and 300 prop and DUDE i never had an ab in my life.....now i am basically ripped at 40...no Cardio only 6 weeks....crazy!!!
 
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