Am i missing out???

[louisiana]

I never really gave any test an honest run before. I used test prop for 2 weeks before stopping, i couldnt handle the pain from the injection. I pushed my cycle back to febuary instead of january and im really thinking about running some test prop this time. I think i found some that willnt give pip. My cycle will be primo 500mgs and test prop 300mgs all for 16 weeks. If i decide to run the test do i really need the proviron? If i do what benefit will i get in terms of visual results.

 

[hydez27]

Primo is also very painful


Pain is temporary, glory is forever!

 

[The Alpha...]

I never really gave any test an honest run before. I used test prop for 2 weeks before stopping, i couldnt handle the pain from the injection. I pushed my cycle back to febuary instead of january and im really thinking about running some test prop this time. I think i found some that willnt give pip. My cycle will be primo 500mgs and test prop 300mgs all for 16 weeks. If i decide to run the test do i really need the proviron? If i do what benefit will i get in terms of visual results.

Primo does hurt bro! Prop gives some people fits but I've never once had an issue with it and it's the only test I ever run... The most painful oils (primo, tren, prop) are best to be pinned in the delts, they recover soooo much faster than quads or glutes... Try warming them too.. That does help. My advice would be to run test as ur base with every cycle... Prop and primo together only? I dunno never ran em like that...


Beast Mode

 

[louisiana]

Primo is also very painful


Pain is temporary, glory is forever!

This is strange because i hear alot of people talk about pain from primo but ive never experienced any pain. I used primo 4 times in the course of my cycling life and no pain, just results. Test prop hurt like hell but im hoping this brand that i want to use be as smooth as adverised. Thanks for the replies but i wanted to know if i run proviron with this how will it help with visual results. I know it help free up natural test and help with libido.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ everyone is different. primo has a high molecular structure. 100mg/ml. so its thick and when you inject it the muscle doesn't like such a thick oil going into it.

i am in agony after injecting primo

what size needle were you using? a thicker needle would theoretically cause less pain since you are pushing such a heavy oil in.. i had less pain with a 23G vs. a 25G

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

I never really gave any test an honest run before. I used test prop for 2 weeks before stopping, i couldnt handle the pain from the injection. I pushed my cycle back to febuary instead of january and im really thinking about running some test prop this time. I think i found some that willnt give pip. My cycle will be primo 500mgs and test prop 300mgs all for 16 weeks. If i decide to run the test do i really need the proviron? If i do what benefit will i get in terms of visual results.

If u don't like the pain from prop why don't you run cyp? I mean ur wanting to go 16 weeks, do u just have to run prop?

 

[wcjcMr.O]

16 weeks seems pretty damn long

y are you wanting to run such a long cycle?

 

[calpoly]

why not just run enanthate or cyp with an AI? You couldnt handle prop for 2 weeks, and you want to run it again at 16wks?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

why not just run enanthate or cyp with an AI? You couldnt handle prop for 2 weeks, and you want to run it again at 16wks?

^^^ This. Also as a former homebrewer I say to you good luck getting real prop that doesn't have PIP. It requires more alcohol in the mix to keep it a liquid than most other gear. If it has no pip it is not real prop or the alcohol content is so low that the moment you leave it in the cold room one time the bottle will completely crystalize into a block of salt.

Why not run something like test cyp/ena if you do not like pip? As others have said, primo isn't the most comfortable injectable either so if you want to use up the prop you have I would do something like use up 50mg of it every week in my ena or cyp in the same syringe to delute it and reduce the pip but not let it go to waste by never using.

Cutting prop with EQ is also a very good method as EQ tends to have very smooth injections due to it requiring less alcohol (only enough for sterility)as it will suspend with none. It is liquid at room temperature even when not mixed into an oil.

 

[louisiana]

16 weeks seems pretty damn long

y are you wanting to run such a long cycle?

Well i really was thinking about running the primo and not the test prop for 16 weeks. I may cut the primo down to about 12 weeks also.

 

[louisiana]

If u don't like the pain from prop why don't you run cyp? I mean ur wanting to go 16 weeks, do u just have to run prop?

I dont want to bloat at all.

 

[louisiana]

^^^ everyone is different. primo has a high molecular structure. 100mg/ml. so its thick and when you inject it the muscle doesn't like such a thick oil going into it.

i am in agony after injecting primo

what size needle were you using? a thicker needle would theoretically cause less pain since you are pushing such a heavy oil in.. i had less pain with a 23G vs. a 25G

Ive only used 25g for every injection ive ever did. Do you think i should cut this cycle down to 12 weeks? How would you cycle primo,test and proviron for someone 5,11 and weight hopefully 200lbs. I say hopefully because i have 17lb left before running this cycle.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Well i really was thinking about running the primo and not the test prop for 16 weeks. I may cut the primo down to about 12 weeks also.

Well as to your worries about water weight there is no bio-chemical reason why prop would cause less water weight gain than other tests... that is myth. I personally bloat like a water ballon on low doses of propr without an AI.

As to the primo... no test will = no sex drive very possibly. To make matters worse make sure you really trust your source and the company that makes their gear. Due to the demand and high price of primo a lot of it is fake and actually test anyway.

 

[stevesmi]

unless you want raging libido i would dump the test and run primo 500mg/week alone for 12 weeks.. kickstart it for 4 weeks with 20-30mg dbol and 50mg proviron everyday.

run forma the first 4 weeks. you won't have bloat and will be rock hard after this cycle. this is my dream cycle which i plan on running something next year..

primo gains are very keepable (assuming you run a good pct) and you don't need to go carb heavy on it so its perfect for your goals

 

[Deleted member 33117]

unless you want raging libido i would dump the test and run primo 500mg/week alone for 12 weeks.. kickstart it for 4 weeks with 20-30mg dbol and 50mg proviron everyday.

run forma the first 4 weeks. you won't have bloat and will be rock hard after this cycle. this is my dream cycle which i plan on running something next year..

primo gains are very keepable (assuming you run a good pct) and you don't need to go carb heavy on it so its perfect for your goals

$$$ right there but that would be a very solid cycle with keepable gains.

What is wrong with a raging libido?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ nothing is wrong with raging libido, but he is looking for non bloat gains this is why i say dump the test and let the primo do the work.. saves you injections and money.

some guys (and their mates) enjoy a raging libido so that would be a reason to add test but its not necessary for his particular goals.

if you run primo and kill it in the gym for 12 weeks it can totally alter your physique and the gains are very keepable and clean.. will you get incredible strength gains? not really. but it will shape your body and kickstarting it with dbol and proviron will add some strength early in the cycle.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

^^^ nothing is wrong with raging libido, but he is looking for non bloat gains this is why i say dump the test and let the primo do the work.. saves you injections and money.

some guys (and their mates) enjoy a raging libido so that would be a reason to add test but its not necessary for his particular goals.

if you run primo and kill it in the gym for 12 weeks it can totally alter your physique and the gains are very keepable and clean.. will you get incredible strength gains? not really. but it will shape your body and kickstarting it with dbol and proviron will add some strength early in the cycle.

A fair statement and I agree. I love sex too much to not run test myself, but in terms of bloat free quality gains what you proposed is solid. I'd consider adding a little eq instead of the dbol though for the same cycle but that is just me. ;-)

 

[louisiana]

unless you want raging libido i would dump the test and run primo 500mg/week alone for 12 weeks.. kickstart it for 4 weeks with 20-30mg dbol and 50mg proviron everyday.

run forma the first 4 weeks. you won't have bloat and will be rock hard after this cycle. this is my dream cycle which i plan on running something next year..

primo gains are very keepable (assuming you run a good pct) and you don't need to go carb heavy on it so its perfect for your goals

Thanks brother this is some great advice!!