Am I A Dumbass Or Is This Stack Ok To Start?

[conrad5141]

Well I got my stuff and a nice supply. I still know that I need some test and plan to get it for my next cycle, but what I have is what I am going to have to deal with. I am currently using 50mg of Ref B a day and 50mg of Stanazolic a day I am also going to be adding 30mg of Anavar into that in about three weeks. I know this isn't the most ideal stack, but being a novice I thought I would see some sort of resulsts. MY QUESTION IS THIS...should I expect to see a big retention of water from this and should I take anything to reduce puffiness from the Ref and is there anything like Clomid that I should take near the end or during. Also is this stack totally a stupid one? I know that I should throw some test in there, but I plan to get a bottle of EQ for my next with some winnie tabs. I'm learning more everyday and I guess this is how to do it.

 

[2Thick]

Your stack sounds fine for a novice.

You will get some water retention from the ref-b. Unless you use nolvadex, there is not much you can do besides getting plenty of water per day.

You will need to use Clomid after the cycle. Use 100mg per day for 7 days starting the day after yor last injection or pill. Then use 50mg per day for the next 7 days.

 

[conrad5141]

THANKS A MILLION 2thick
Its good to know you got guys on here that care to help out!
Con

 

[ajc]

I think most will agree that dbol and winny are a pointless combo because the winny is supposed to be for hardening and the dbol for mass (along with bloat). You'll gain, but I don't think there's much point in using winny and dbol together.

Yes you'll need clomid at the end to jumpstart your test production after the cycle. Nolva would be good with dbol to avoid gyno and counter the water bloat.

I'd never stack two 17aa oral steroids at the same time because of the toxicity. You should save the dbol to use with test for a fall cycle and get some deca to use with that winny.

You need to do a little more research, you'll be glad you did. Deca is better than EQ with winny because it will comfort your joints.

It also kinda sounds like you're avoiding injectibles to me.

Just my .02

 

[assbeater]

watch out for your liver man, those are very toxic drugs that you are stacking, save one of the 17aa drugs and stack them in you next cycle. i would use deca or sust if i were you!

 

[PimpnAintEasy]

AJC is right, Dbol & winny together are pointless; 2 weak AR binders have no synergy together. Next time find some test to go with the EQ and add EITHER winny or Dbol and you will have a great stack.

No, you're not a dumbass... well not for this anyways, you chose good gear, it just takes time to learn how to use them properly.

 

[ORGANON CANON]

Are you scared of needles

 

[Horny]

dbol and winstrol sounds good to me. You could get rid of the winstrol and up the ref dosage but then you will get more water bloat and estrogen. You could get rid of the dbol and up the winstrol dose but that would be dam expensive. I think that the combo makes good sense. More aas is going to = more results at the dosages that you are talking about and you areand keeping estrogen and your bank account in check.

 

[conrad5141]

Whats a needle?

I guess I need to learn sometime...ohhh and the Ref I am taking at 25mg a day...I guess I will just stick to the Ref and maybe some Anavar...Save the Winnie for the summer with maybe some EQ or Sust
thanks again

 

[The Iron Game]

Dbol & winny together are pointless; 2 weak AR binders have no synergy together.

Couldnt be further from the truth

 

[Ulter]

Winny and Dbol "sounds like a nice stack"

OK I can die now...I've heard everything.

2Thick you never stop surprising me. How on earth can you call that a nice stack?

Orals are used to augment a cycle not build one out of. You say you need to learn more. You're right but don't learn the hard way, which is AFTER you've already spent your money.