big_bad_buff said:
is this real? if so, how can they sell it legally?
http://www.herbalsmokeshop.com/hydro.htm
Pure bullshit. Most of those 'herbal' alternatives are either completely fake or are shit that in huge, huge, huge quantities could maybe cop you a buzz (catnip, lettuce 'opium', damiana, and similar herbs). A lot of times they are glued together or pressed together.
They can make any type of claims they want, b/c if you dont like it, what are you going to do... call the cops and be like "i bought some shit to get high with and I didnt cop a good buzz?". You're left pissed and out $50 while they get the next sucker.
Almost everything that can get you fairly high eventually gets made illegal.
About the only options for getting truly fucked up legally are DXM (safe if you dont overdo it), Salvia (safe), Opium Seeds, Extracting Codeine from Tylenol & Codeine OTC caps (in states still permitting this, like Texas), Drinking Alcohol, and a handful of other things.
Also, Vicks 44 "Cough" (green label) has nothing but DXM in it.
Watch your dosage 1 4oz bottle did nothing. 2 had me fairly fucked up, its enjoyable to an extent. Makes your pupils semi-big, thats cool. Only bad thing was I got a temporary rash/red spot on my skin that went away after a few hours. It didnt itch or anything, was just weird/annoying. You feel fairly weird when you walk/move around, but thats b/c DXM is a dissociative (like Ketamine/PCP/etc.).
DONT EVER TAKE DXM WITHIN 1 DAY OF TAKING ANYTHING CONTAINING YOHIMBINE (LIKE NYC, YOHIMBURN, ETC.) YOU WILL MOST LIKELY GET BRAIN DAMAGE (OLNEY'S LESIONS) IF YOU DO.
This rule applies to most other disassociatives as well.