*****ALL DIETERS***** read this NOW

[Burning_Inside]

http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=89&pageid=1

A very insightful interview with Lyle McDonald explaining the wonderful hormone known as Insulin. In my opinion, this whole article is a must read for anyone venturing intot he world of dieting, as it will most likely clarify a lot of questions you have or will eventually in good detail.

 

[JJFigure]

Good read. I liked this article too - it definitely answered a few of my questions about low carb diets based on the inconsistencies I was discovering from my own experiences:

http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=67

 

[nclifter6feet6]

that was one of the most interesting articles ive ever read

great post man

remember read all THREE pages

hopefully know people will stop getting such a big hardon when they hear ckd

i keep tellin people just cause your on ckd doesnt mean u loose fat

for my carb cycling with low fat is the way to go

 

[Burning_Inside]

that was one of the most interesting articles ive ever read

great post man

remember read all THREE pages

hopefully know people will stop getting such a big hardon when they hear ckd

i keep tellin people just cause your on ckd doesnt mean u loose fat

for my carb cycling with low fat is the way to go

Right, the CKD is not the end all be all, BUT, I'll cut and paste this part of the interview just for a reminder..

So to the main part of your question: what about cyclical dieting. I don't usually go in for absolutes (this annoys people who want to be told 'do this, it'll work') in most things, there's too much variance in response to different diet, training schemes. Cyclical dieting is a place where I make an exception. With the very possible exception of the extremely obese (who actually want to let leptin drop for a bunch of complicated reasons), I would say that anyone who wants optimal fat loss with minimal/lessened muscle loss should use a cyclical diet.

I mean, even outside of the physiological benefits (raising leptin, raising insulin, lowering cortisol, refilling muscle glycogen to support training), the psychological benefits are profound. I mean, how many times do we hear about bodybuilders who diet down for a contest to 5% using the often heard 'Don’t eat it if it tastes good' theory of dieting. Yeah, fine, they get into shape, and they go on a month or two long food binge once it’s over. Bodybuilders are notorious for training harder instead of smarter (too many Rocky movies) they are the folks who will just use sheer will power and pigheaded stubbornness to reach their goal. This is fine if all you care about is that one-day. Assuming folks want to get and stay lean, a livable approach is necessary.

When Elzi (Editors note: Elzi Volk is one of the other members who make up the trio of master minds that Lyle often refers to) was dieting for her contest, all of her fellow bodybuilders (who were on your standard contest diets) were going out of their minds towards the end. They hadn't had a real piece of food for months while she has to have her treats on the weekend during the carb-load. Not only did she come in just as lean (she was measured between 5-7% body fat at the OSU human performance lab), but also she didn't have any post-contest binge. She didn't need it because she never felt super deprived.

But back to the physiology. I can't think of any real exceptions (again, noting that the super obese may need to let leptin levels drop below a certain point initially) to using a cyclical diet. Or any real reason why someone wouldn't respond to it.

Now some attentive readers may point to my original Bodyopus experiences as a counter-argument. Not only did I not get as lean as I wanted to (or should have), towards the end it looked like I was gaining fat back (I think I was). I can relate this to a few major mistakes on my part. The first, cutting calories too much during the week. Like everyone else, I got impatient, did something dumb. The second, too much cardio during the week. Same answer. The third and more related to the question you asked was: my carb ups were crap.

Actually, calling them a carb-up isn't even correct: they were fat ups. That is, in my fervor to put down as much crap as possible, I ate far too much dietary fat during my refeeds. All of the donuts, cookie dough, candy and **** were putting the fat right back on (on top of my screw ups during the week slowing fat loss in the first place). Refeeds based mainly around carbs with fat intake lowered don't have that problem.

There's also the issue of length (sorry, guys, length does matter). My carb loads were too long, especially considering what they were comprised of. There' s definite relationship between how long you're going to/can carbload and how much you're going to/can eat. On the old lowcarb-l list (mailing list for keto diets), I remember folks putting down ridiculous amounts of calories (talking 7000+) but limiting their refeeds to 24 hours or less. It's only when the refeeds were lengthened into the second day that problems started to occur. Basically, Dan's refeed recommendations (a full 48 hours) were ONLY valid if you exactly followed his guidelines for carb and fat amounts, which I didn't.

 

[nclifter6feet6]

he seems to put alot of faith in bromocriptine...........


question 1. is this shit legal in usa????????

question 2. does this shit have a rebound effect when you come off???????????

does it really work that well?

 

[CB38AC]

I am liking a CKD and the TKD looks even better....

It's just so simple to follow... If ou HAVE ti break down you can just go eat some junior bacon cheeseburgers at wendys without the bread and you feel good about yourself...

IF you count cals and get your own proper ratio (i can go as high as 60/40 fat/protein) its a nice diet

 

[Burning_Inside]

bababump
sticky maybe?

 

[Kid Dynamite]

I remember Lyle's body opus pages from 1996. He'd eat Donuts, cake, complete shit for his carb-ups. Reading those now is pretty funny. And I agree, unless you're high in fat, you need calorie jumps so you don't go nuts or plateau.

 

[nclifter6feet6]

stick dis motha fathaaaaa

nice sig burninginside