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airborne83
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every now and then i have a couple of beers with my boys .. im curious if these would affect my gains. anyone care to shed some light on this? 
Alcohol & Bodybuilding
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airborne83
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http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/bigalcohol.htm
mmm i found lotsa articles.. search google for "bodybuilding and alcohol"
mmm i found lotsa articles.. search google for "bodybuilding and alcohol"
kimchee411
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Alcohol is detrimental to diet. It is purely empty calories that don't even get used by the body for fuel at all. I think I read somewhere that your body even halts the use of its normal fuel sources to get rid of the alcohol in your system first (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. anybody). However, I think it's okay as long as you don't drink too much and/or too often. I stay away from beer, though, since it has a lot of extra cals on top of the alcohol and you have to drink a considerable amount to get a decent buzz going. I stick with wine or liquor. 2 small glasses of scotch on the rocks or 2 glasses of vino usually gets me comfortably toasty.
kimchee411
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airborne83 said:
Ahh, two posts while I was writing my previous comment. Guess it's busy around here, haha. Nice article airborne. I think what I said conforms with that, in an over-simplified, bastardized kinda way, haha.
airborne83
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sorry ya'll...
just had a couple of beers. lol
just had a couple of beers. lol
irish_pride
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i was always slim until a year ago when i started boozing every other nite. put on alot of bodyfat.
macrophage69alpha
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alcohol is detrimental, paricularly in certain ethnic groups, but its also a facet of many cultures and social activities.
if you are going to drink
at least take sesamax (or other sesamin product)
here is why
Biosci Biotechnol Biochem. 2005 Jan;69(1):179-88.
Modulating effect of sesamin, a functional lignan in sesame seeds, on the transcription levels of lipid- and alcohol-metabolizing enzymes in rat liver: a DNA microarray study.
Sesamin, a major lignan in sesame seeds, has multiple functions such as cholesterol-lowering and anti-hypertensive activities. To investigate the effect of sesamin on gene expression in the liver, a DNA microarray analysis was carried out. The ingestion of sesamin dissolved in olive oil up-regulated the expression of 38 genes, 16 of which encode proteins possessing a lipid-metabolizing function, and 16 of which encode proteins possessing a xenobiotic/endogenous substance metabolizing function. In particular, sesamin significantly increased the expression of beta-oxidation-associated enzymes in peroxisomes and auxiliary enzymes required for degradation, via the beta-oxidation pathway, of unsaturated fatty acids in mitochondria. The ingestion of sesamin also resulted in an increase in the gene expression of acyl-CoA thioesterase involved in acyl-CoA hydrolase and very-long-chain acyl-CoA thioesterase. Interestingly, it induced the expression of the gene for aldehyde dehydrogenase, an alcohol-metabolizing enzyme. These results suggest that sesamin regulates the metabolism of lipids, xenobiotics, and alcohol at the mRNA level.
there are other supplements that can also help, most of which are related to liver function, the main benefit of sesamin (that others do not have is the impact on aldehyde dehydrogenase- aldehydes are responsible for much of the negative effects of alcohol consumption)
if you are going to drink
at least take sesamax (or other sesamin product)
here is why
Biosci Biotechnol Biochem. 2005 Jan;69(1):179-88.
Modulating effect of sesamin, a functional lignan in sesame seeds, on the transcription levels of lipid- and alcohol-metabolizing enzymes in rat liver: a DNA microarray study.
Sesamin, a major lignan in sesame seeds, has multiple functions such as cholesterol-lowering and anti-hypertensive activities. To investigate the effect of sesamin on gene expression in the liver, a DNA microarray analysis was carried out. The ingestion of sesamin dissolved in olive oil up-regulated the expression of 38 genes, 16 of which encode proteins possessing a lipid-metabolizing function, and 16 of which encode proteins possessing a xenobiotic/endogenous substance metabolizing function. In particular, sesamin significantly increased the expression of beta-oxidation-associated enzymes in peroxisomes and auxiliary enzymes required for degradation, via the beta-oxidation pathway, of unsaturated fatty acids in mitochondria. The ingestion of sesamin also resulted in an increase in the gene expression of acyl-CoA thioesterase involved in acyl-CoA hydrolase and very-long-chain acyl-CoA thioesterase. Interestingly, it induced the expression of the gene for aldehyde dehydrogenase, an alcohol-metabolizing enzyme. These results suggest that sesamin regulates the metabolism of lipids, xenobiotics, and alcohol at the mRNA level.
there are other supplements that can also help, most of which are related to liver function, the main benefit of sesamin (that others do not have is the impact on aldehyde dehydrogenase- aldehydes are responsible for much of the negative effects of alcohol consumption)
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playmatesky
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alcohol fu(cks with your stress hormone cortisol. I wouldnt have more than one or two dirty ketel one martinis ...and if u r really serious about ur goals why drink>? Wait until u reach ur goal and then have a little party...
i agree with what everyone here says BUT Summer just ended and I can honestly say that i drank heavily 4 or more nights a week. I kept my diet the same except for eating 3 or 4 slices of pizza after drinking twice a week. I worked out about twice a week but engaged in some sort of exercise about 3 or 4 times a week. Volleyball swimming baseball. I did not gain a pound of fat nor did Lose muscle or strength.
So I know its not good for you and i wouldnt do it 12 months a year but I will do it for 3. So maybe there were no noticeable changes but I know it could have affected me in ways I not aware of.
So I know its not good for you and i wouldnt do it 12 months a year but I will do it for 3. So maybe there were no noticeable changes but I know it could have affected me in ways I not aware of.
pintoca
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alcohol is a toxin, meaning, that while it is on your body, your body WILL NOT DO ANYTHING ELSE, but to try and get rid of it... so, no fat burning (if you are cutting) , no muscle growth, no nothing... priority one is to get it out.
You decide if you want to bust your ass on the gym and then give your body somehing with a higher priority to do
You decide if you want to bust your ass on the gym and then give your body somehing with a higher priority to do
chewyxrage
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kimchee411 said:
Alchohol is 7 kcal/g. You'll have to burn that up (for energy) before you start burning using your normal body fuel
Elana
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As a college student who turned 21 this past year, stopping drinking was a big deal. I won't touch a drink now becasue of my goals. I figure if I am going to drink all of those empty calories, I would rather eat another bowl of oatmeal. However, I have also lost many friends in the process as you all know drinking is a big part of college.l still go out and dance, but just sober. It can be very tiring at times and remote watching everyone look dumb, but on the flip side I felt it has made a difference in my body.
macrophage69alpha
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suckamc44 said:
this is partly due to alcohol dehydrogenase and aldehyde dehydrogenase levels. Though there are a vriety of factors, in particular insulin sensitivity, that affect bodyweight changes due to alcohol consumption.
kimchee411
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macrophage69alpha said:
Is this the same aldehyde dehydrogenase (2) that causes redness (or rather, the lack of its activity)? I have that "Asian Glow"... does this mean alcohol consumption will have even more adverse effect on my metabolism than those who don't have this defect?
macrophage69alpha
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kimchee411 said:
yes
yes- health as well-Acetaldehyde is carcinogenic and neurotoxic.
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