alcohol and AAS

[bigrand]

How many of you bros drink while on orals?

I just started my cycle and am taking 50mg dbol a day (1 tab a day).
Im just curious, how harsh would it be to say drink once weekly while on cycle. I of course would take ALA at about 1 gram for that day to get the shit out. I just turned 21 a week ago and am in the need to go clubbin and bar hoppin.
I guess i could always use GHB.......

From all the research ive read and heard, the liver damage from AAS is WAY overstated. I ran several weeks of dbol at 50 and 75mg a day followed by halo for 3 weeks and my liver values were perfect a few weeks later on a blood test.

 

[wartime100]

I have done plenty of orals and continued to go out and drink on weekends and everything was fine. I have even brought my dbol to the bar with me and washed it down with a beer. I would not recommend that because it has to be very bad for you but I have had my live tested and everything came back fine. As long as you don't go getting shitfaced all the time you should be alright.

 

[Greek Freak]

Dont drink while on anything that is affecting your liver, and alc dehyrdates you/brings down your immune system anyway. Your asking for trouble when you start drinking on AAS.

 

[gainerxxl]

Drinking on orals is suicide on rates, don´t do it. if you do, you just lack the discipline it requires to take roids.
A good binge on alcohol will elevate your liver enzymes considerably for up to two weeks, now combine this with orals and you´re making your liver a swiss cheese. GHB should be fine, though.

 

[bigrand]

I didnt know that binge drinking could bring up the levels for that long. I never drink for a buzz, i always get hammered!
About once every 1-2 weeks ill get hammed.
Was just checkin to see if the danger was a little overstated.
I dont think drinking once weekly on cycle would brutally fuck my liver, but i also dont really think it would be worth the risk...
Shit, im going to Reno this friday night too! Free drinks!
We will see.

 

[Northstar]

I don't even drink alcohol in any quantities. It's nothing but sugar for the fermentation process. Besides, I had a problem with it in my early twenties! I feel that doing both would be setting yourself up for some kind of cyrosis of the liver. Why risk it?

 

[gainerxxl]

Well, everyone´s different, but I had my liver checked before my cycle, and ALT and (don´t know it in english) were elevated a good bit.
I really binged on alcohol on a college party 10 days prior to the test (like a gallon of beer and lots of liquor along with that) and my doctor told me that´s most likely the reason for my stressed liver, since I don´t take anything else.
I did some research on the subject and discovered that only little amounts of alcohol consumed daily are required to fuck up the liver in some persons. That research group stated that some people can drink masiively for years without getting any probs, while other get cirrhosis from two bottles of beer daily.

 

[wartime100]

My liver is made of steel.

 

[reivog]

I am not sure on this but...

I think it`s not only the Liver you have to worry about when on Orals.

Imadgine, it takes about 1 weeks, from starting an oral such as Dbol for your Test Levels to rise, and results to kick in, then a good 2 weeks to really start noticing results from Dbol.

By this time, most people are waiting for there test injections to kick in also (about week 3)

Now as you know you ALWAYS risk sides when on Test/Dbol due to the aromitization to Estrogen. Now Lets add in some alcahol to the party.

a) Your hard work to up your test levels to 300/400+ is soon kicked in the teeth and almost back to normal levels again

b) On top of all the extra Estrogen you all ready have, you are adding in Extra to help with more side effects.

c) You will be Dehydrated, adding extra strain on your Body and Liver

d) Liver

e) Excess Sugar

Now i am not against alcahol at all when not on AS but if you do drink when on AS try to keep it to a minimum, and get plenty of H20 through out the night too.

Paul

 

[Retabolil2]

Ask Dexter bro, he has been drinking alot. I`m not sure if he was on cycle or not but he is an expert in this area thats for sure.

 

[fallenangel]

well i won't do orals purely because i like a drink, now i know that a lot of people say don't srink on a cycle but i do enjoy going out once a week. Its like one guy who goes in the gym won't drink coz he worries about his liver but i know for a fact he hammers the e's and coke and i'm thinking oh so your liver will be Ok your heart will be a mess but your liver will be OK. Maybe ghb is the answer although i've never tried it myself

 

[bigrand]

Im sure that drinking once weekly in moderation is ok if you have the tools to clean yourself up (ALA).
Ive also heard the binge drinking is better than daily drinking.
My family is full of drinkers, so im sure i have a champion liver!

 

[Spartacus]

the liver is a muscle,you need to "work it out"

 

[rez]

Im sure that drinking once weekly in moderation is ok if you have the tools to clean yourself up (ALA).
Ive also heard the binge drinking is better than daily drinking.
My family is full of drinkers, so im sure i have a champion liver!

so if were to have alcohol would u take the ALA before? and how long before for it to be effective?

thanks

 

[supertech69]

Do like I do when I go out to the clubs or anywhere that my fiends drink for that matter. Drink a beer when you first get there, take your time, don't shotgun the damn thing, drink a bottle or 2 of water then drink another. I would not drink more than 2-4 beers though. Getting hammered while on cycle is just stupid & a wreckless thing to do to your body. If you lack the discipline to limit yourself on the bad things while on cycle, then you might as well hang it up because there are much harder things to do when it comes to gaining & or cutting. This is one of the many reasons that most young people should not be messing with AAS. BTW, I don't know where you got your information but, I assure you that 50mg of d-bolED is in fact hard on your liver. Get your priorities straight, what benefit to your body is there to getting smashed? Even when you aren't on cycle?

 

[rodd45]

i hate this topic

 

[wartime100]

Do like I do when I go out to the clubs or anywhere that my fiends drink for that matter. Drink a beer when you first get there, take your time, don't shotgun the damn thing, drink a bottle or 2 of water then drink another. I would not drink more than 2-4 beers though. Getting hammered while on cycle is just stupid & a wreckless thing to do to your body. If you lack the discipline to limit yourself on the bad things while on cycle, then you might as well hang it up because there are much harder things to do when it comes to gaining & or cutting. This is one of the many reasons that most young people should not be messing with AAS. BTW, I don't know where you got your information but, I assure you that 50mg of d-bolED is in fact hard on your liver. Get your priorities straight, what benefit to your body is there to getting smashed? Even when you aren't on cycle?

Everyone's body is different. I have drank anywher from 12-20 beers on a friday night while on a 50mg cycle of dbol,with no ala or liver detox. I had my liver values tested right after my cycle and they were a little high. 3 weeks later i had them retested and they were fine. As far as getting priorties straight, I train my ass off all week long and maintain a good diet. That is my number #1 priority. There is nothing wrong with rewarding yourself by going out to the bar once a week and haveing a good time.

 

[rez]

so if were to have alcohol would u take the ALA before? and how long before for it to be effective?

thanks

anyone?

 

[bigrand]

Rez, id say some before to prepare for the mess, some after to clean it up, but i dont know for sure.

half a gram about an hour before and half a gram about 30 min after?