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Ala May Help With Side Effects From X!

JUICESEEKER

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I just read this article taken from testosterone mag, and it claims ala may help with side effects associated with rolling. This ala stuff just keeps getting better. Here is the article.

Rollin' in Ecstasy

For those of you who don't know, "rollin'" is club scene slang for tripping out on Ecstasy or X (3,4-methylenedioxy-methamphetamine or MDMA). Although it has nothing to do with building muscle or losing fat, many bodybuilders use it and at least one pro-bodybuilder has been jailed for selling it, but we won't mention Craig Titus' name 'cause that would be rude.

I honestly hate talking about a drug like X in my column. This crap has no place in bodybuilding. Recreational drugs are also the number-one reason why law enforcement types bring heat down on steroid users (because they're using or dealing X, coke, smack, Nubain, etc. in addition to roids.) But I'm also a realist and I know X is a problem that needs to be addressed.

Ecstasy is about the worst of the recreational drugs you can ingest. Aside from potentially causing fatal hyperthermia in many people, the stuff rots out your brain…literally! X's effects on serotonin and serotinergic mechanisms in the brain are deleterious and permanent.

The information I'm about to describe should not be misconstrued as a tacit approval of X use by bodybuilders or anyone else. I don't think anyone should ever use X — period! However, if I can help reduce some of the deleterious side effects of X by passing along some info, I'm going to do such. So here we go:

• Women don't handle X as well as men do. Women are far more susceptible to becoming seriously depressed after using X than men are. However, men are much more susceptible to increases in aggressive behavior a few days after rollin'. (1)

• According to one study, ALA (alpha lipoic acid) taken at roughly double the dosage of X you're taking (and thirty minutes before you roll) can fully prevent serotonergic defects caused by X. So anyone using X should make the investment and buy a bottle of ALA. (2)

• Most people realize that X absolutely croaks serotonin levels in the central nervous system. Repeated and frequent usage can lead to a serious and continual lowering of brain serotonin. Thus, the supplement 5-HTP, a serotonin precursor, might be a good idea to incorporate two to four hours after you've used X to help ameliorate this decline in serotonin. (3)

Want to know the best way to prevent health problems associated with X use? Don't use it!
 
speaking first hand, i have noticed the difference ala'ing after coming down. boy, talk about no hangover...no feeling ate up. i recently quit e, but when i was doing it reg. i did take precautions, when i found out ala was the shit. it was a part of my whole e trip...one of the best anti oxi's out there...damn free radicals..


sober
 
Hey, if you wanna rail against drug use go somewhere where that is the theme. Last time I looked, everyone here condones it (or talks about condoning it), so I'm not going to play that game of "my drugs are better than your drugs". If people want to do x, fine, that's their thing. I certainly don't think it's the worst thing you can take--remember heroin? Hell, I would say smoking and drinking are still worse than ecstacy. Let's see:
You can't become physically addicted to it.
You can't take it every day.
The number of deaths from x are ridiculously low, and usually due to novices who don't know what they are doing.
The few negative side effects asoociated with it are just hypothesis right now. Nothing has been conclusively proven about axion shortening causing long-term problems.
X is a great drug for having fun with people, making new friends, and burning some calories, and I would recommend anyone do that before drinking a case of estrogen-inducing beer.
Besides, I know people that would do X every week but would think you were nuts for sticking needles in your ass everyday. So who are you to point a finger?:rolleyes:
 
drug_against_war said:
Hey, if you wanna rail against drug use go somewhere where that is the theme. Last time I looked, everyone here condones it (or talks about condoning it), so I'm not going to play that game of "my drugs are better than your drugs".


Well I sure as hell don't condone E.

The fact of the matter is that JUICESEEKER has otped to post helpfull information regarding the use of E and ALA to help lower the damage to serotonin levels.

Personally, "drug_against_war" E has totally fucked my mind in many ways. When I was younger I did not do Any other drug (not even drinking or smoking) while I was doing E. I did not do it every day. Not every week sometimes. Usually about 3 times a month.

My short term memory is totally fucked now and I have found it very hard to concentrate. These facts of my life arose aprox 1 year into my MDMA use and are a direct result of E.

Wish I had thought about ALA then.

Great post JUICESEEKER

Kro!
 
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