advice on first time clen usage

[markshark]

my original cycle was to run 70mg/ anavar for 8 weeks along with a small dosage of 250mg/test e just to keep up test levels. was confined to 50mg/day of var for 6 weeks instead because i was unable to get more. so my plan was to finish out my test cycle 6 more weeks and add in clen to harden up. i was going to up the test now to 500mg or 750mg/wk and add in clen. any suggestions on how i can use the clen with this in order to stay muscular and harden up? the entire point of the cycle was to lean up, gain some strength and lean muscle, not go crazy like on my winter tren/prop/winny cycle. help please?

 

[GUARDIAN]

save the clen for after pct if u want to run it. if u r running that much test u should be worried about building muscle. u can "harden up" by making adjustments to your diet.

when i run clen i only use 200-250mg of test and even that is alot or run it with an oral.

 

[markshark]

save the clen for after pct if u want to run it. if u r running that much test u should be worried about building muscle. u can "harden up" by making adjustments to your diet.

when i run clen i only use 200-250mg of test and even that is alot or run it with an oral.

let me ask u this, will clen benefit for keeping muscle? and should i use it during pct or after?

 

[eddymerckx]

let me ask u this, will clen benefit for keeping muscle? and should i use it during pct or after?

there is some research that says it can--but that assumes you take-in adequate clean calories and run after pct b/c your body is working hard enough to get back in balance with thowing other things in the mix---imho and full disclosure i hate the stuff. listen to guardian--he knows his clen.

 

[markshark]

there is some research that says it can--but that assumes you take-in adequate clean calories and run after pct b/c your body is working hard enough to get back in balance with thowing other things in the mix---imho and full disclosure i hate the stuff. listen to guardian--he knows his clen.

last question for those who have used it......does it produce and energetic high and possible anxiety and crash of ephedrine? i have read that it is similar in a way. basically i want to be able to sleep at night. people i know that have actually been on it were shaking all day and basically had to chalk their body up with heavy antiperspirant.

 

[OMEGA]

ClenButerol is only AntiCatabolic in animal models,
because animal responded via a mechanism Humans DO NOT have

ClenButerol leaches minerals and Vitamins from the body and causes Cardiac Cell Necrosis

 

[eddymerckx]

ClenButerol is only AntiCatabolic in animal models,
because animal responded via a mechanism Humans DO NOT have

ClenButerol leaches minerals and Vitamins from the body and causes Cardiac Cell Necrosis

i disagree--everytime the doorbell rings i salivate.....i think its dominos

O-does albuterol cause the same cardiac issues?

 

[GUARDIAN]

let me ask u this, will clen benefit for keeping muscle? and should i use it during pct or after?

there are studies on animals that suggest this but nothing on humans. from my personal experience i started running a small dose of test with it or an oral for a good reason .