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advice for less painfull prop shots
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w8liftinglady
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A few q's-
are you shooting yourself-or is someone shooting for you?Where exactly are you shooting?What is the procedure-do you clean the site before hand?What size pin?How many ccs?
I've given a LOT of shots in my lifetime,so maybe I can help a bit...
1.PLEASE clean the site before you shoot.A bottle of alcohol and a cotton ball will do well.I can't tell you how many abcesses we' lanced in the ER from guys who were just careless with their injections.
2.PLEASE don't re-use the same pin-aside from the obvious sanitary considerations,the pin becomes dull once it penetrates the skin,hence more tissue damage and pain.
3.Rotate your sites.That will go a long way to prevent a buildup of scar tissue,which makes it a lot harder to inject.
4.Go deep.If you have a significant muscle bed,you should have no problem getting in there with a 1" pin(1 1/2" if you have a bit of subcutaneous fat)If you give yourself a subcut injection of the heavy suspensions,it will hurt(and be less effective)
5.Massage the site well after wards.Keep active-some cardio,or something.It will help disperse the medicine,and also bathe the site in blood,which will reduce the irritation.
Hope this helps a bit...
are you shooting yourself-or is someone shooting for you?Where exactly are you shooting?What is the procedure-do you clean the site before hand?What size pin?How many ccs?
I've given a LOT of shots in my lifetime,so maybe I can help a bit...
1.PLEASE clean the site before you shoot.A bottle of alcohol and a cotton ball will do well.I can't tell you how many abcesses we' lanced in the ER from guys who were just careless with their injections.
2.PLEASE don't re-use the same pin-aside from the obvious sanitary considerations,the pin becomes dull once it penetrates the skin,hence more tissue damage and pain.
3.Rotate your sites.That will go a long way to prevent a buildup of scar tissue,which makes it a lot harder to inject.
4.Go deep.If you have a significant muscle bed,you should have no problem getting in there with a 1" pin(1 1/2" if you have a bit of subcutaneous fat)If you give yourself a subcut injection of the heavy suspensions,it will hurt(and be less effective)
5.Massage the site well after wards.Keep active-some cardio,or something.It will help disperse the medicine,and also bathe the site in blood,which will reduce the irritation.
Hope this helps a bit...
I use a 22 g /1.5 inch needle. I clean the injection site thoroughly with 90% alchol. I only use needle once and I go the full depth of the syringe. I do rub the site for several minutes right after and a little for the hour after.I walk about house and run up and down the stairs to get the blood going. I take an advil an hour before and right after. I drink lots of water and stretch out the glute. In also hold a hot cloth on the site for a few minutes before I shoot and before I clean it with alchol. The pain I have is not immediate, it is the next 24 to 48 hours after, starting at about 2 to 3 hours after I shoot. I think I have most bases covered but more knowledge is better.
If you can mix your phenyl-prop with some other oil based injectable, it will definately help.
Also, just as experiment, try to move as little as possible after the shot. I do it that way, if I use something with Prop(Sust) and it makes a big difference. On a contrary to popular belief, I think that if you cut yourself, you don't run to gym to exersice that muscle, you normally try not to bother this area. Same with shot, you penetrate your muscle, so why would you think that little wound will heal faster if you irritate it? May be I'm wrong, but it works for me.
Also, just as experiment, try to move as little as possible after the shot. I do it that way, if I use something with Prop(Sust) and it makes a big difference. On a contrary to popular belief, I think that if you cut yourself, you don't run to gym to exersice that muscle, you normally try not to bother this area. Same with shot, you penetrate your muscle, so why would you think that little wound will heal faster if you irritate it? May be I'm wrong, but it works for me.
w8liftinglady
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When you rotate injection sites,you can alternate between glutes,and a site I use a lot for my patients...to get a picture of where it is at,place the heel of your hand on the greater trochanter(hip bone),and make your index and middle finger into a "V"you should be able to feel the iliac crest with both fingers.the space between the fingers is where you inject-I like it because there are fewer nerve ending and vessels,thus the injection hurts a lot less,and doesn't bleed as much afterwards.
Massaging the injection site for an intramuscular injection is pretty much the standard,because it does help disperse the drug,and decreases a localized accumulation of cytokines,etc(that cause the pain afterwards)Maybe take a NSAID like motrin or naprosyn every six hours or so to see if that helps the inflammation and pain.
Massaging the injection site for an intramuscular injection is pretty much the standard,because it does help disperse the drug,and decreases a localized accumulation of cytokines,etc(that cause the pain afterwards)Maybe take a NSAID like motrin or naprosyn every six hours or so to see if that helps the inflammation and pain.
Buy Korean Prop next time. No pain at all and growing like a weed.
I use a 1.5" 25g pin for all of my injections.
Make sure that you are totally relaxing your muscles when you inject. Do not tighten at any time in the injection.
Aspirate!!!
B True
I use a 1.5" 25g pin for all of my injections.
Make sure that you are totally relaxing your muscles when you inject. Do not tighten at any time in the injection.
Aspirate!!!
B True
