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A deproteinized hemoderivitive of calf's blood. Anyone have any experience with this stuff?
Actovegin????
- Thread starter Jack steel
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Really?? No one has anything on actovegin? Apparently it's a big endurance/cyclist thing. I bet armstrong's tried it before.
you really grasp for some off straws don't you son
blood doping isn't new...read more, theres a reason why its not en vogue
blood doping isn't new...read more, theres a reason why its not en vogue
i saw it one place but i've never ordered from there. Ya i've heard of blood doping but never knew exactly what the drug was. I don't believe there's only one kind of blood doping either, but i could be wrong. I've heard of doing transfusions with pre-oxygenated blood, like between races, etc., but calf's blood?? I wonder why it has to be calf's blood.
honestly...I wouldn't go for it
all the stem cell banks at one point in time were based off of bovine and porcine plasma bases (for a lack of getting more technical we'll keep it there so no ones brain explodes)and all the human stem cells were cultivated off this base...every one of them were considered contaminated for further research because of the base. This is why it was so frustrating to anyone that was doing stem cell research that the banks weren't shut down but no new ones could be created because of the politics of the time. So stem cell research could only go so far....anyway thats more technical and had slightly different restrictions than what youre looking into but I would be very wary of any black market sources for any blood products and immuno responses
all the stem cell banks at one point in time were based off of bovine and porcine plasma bases (for a lack of getting more technical we'll keep it there so no ones brain explodes)and all the human stem cells were cultivated off this base...every one of them were considered contaminated for further research because of the base. This is why it was so frustrating to anyone that was doing stem cell research that the banks weren't shut down but no new ones could be created because of the politics of the time. So stem cell research could only go so far....anyway thats more technical and had slightly different restrictions than what youre looking into but I would be very wary of any black market sources for any blood products and immuno responses
was this an injectable or something else? cuz now Im wondering if the same thing as Gear
I've heard of people taking out their own blood little by little and freezing it just to inject it a later time. Seems like a hard thing to do hastily though. the stuff i saw for sale was a tablet i believe.
hmmm...I dont know
send me pics of quads instead...tyia
send me pics of quads instead...tyia
