AAS and ECA

[rebellifter]

Hey Guys,

Just looking for a few opinions or personal experiences on taking AAS and an ECA stack at the same time. I am on a current cycle, mainly looking for some lean mass and strength without quite all the fat accumulation usually associated with a higher caloric intake. I used to be obese and I have a VERY SLOW metabolism!!! I was wondering if an ECA stack will hinder my gains in lean mass or strength, what do you guys recommend?
Thanks!!!

 

[satchboogie]

i use efedrine pre workouts due to the very noticeable increase in strength, and the vascular appearance it induces.

there's no doubt in mind that, if used properly, it is BY FAR the best product for any bodybuilder.

 

[thx9000]

I put this idea in the same category as using T3 with gear. To me it seems like chopping your fingers off b/c you got tired of having to cut your nails every week or so. You want to gain weight on a cycle and speeding up your metabolism is just going to make it harder to deposit fat and protein. All this is just my humble opinion though.

You can increase caloric intake and still minimize fat gain, eating cleanly is a good start in this direction (avoid, like the plague, simple carb's etc). Also starting your cycle at a low bf % will help a lot too.

I wonder if using something like yohimburn might be better than ECA or NYC? Yohimburn seems to work by antagonizing the A2 receptors and freeing fatty acids for subsequnt burning. It also has less of a systemic impact and I would assume that means less impact on over all metabolic rate.

 

[satchboogie]

I put this idea in the same category as using T3 with gear. To me it seems like chopping your fingers off b/c you got tired of having to cut your nails every week or so. .

you cant possibly compare efedrine and t3.

 

[thx9000]

you cant possibly compare efedrine and t3.

No, not at all. Just comparing the idea of using something to intentionally speed up metabolisim at the same time you are intentionally trying to put on more mass. The two concepts seem to be contradictory. This isn't something I have any experience doing though, so an informed correction to my ideas would be appreciated...

 

[satchboogie]

No, not at all. Just comparing the idea of using something to intentionally speed up metabolisim at the same time you are intentionally trying to put on more mass. The two concepts seem to be contradictory. This isn't something I have any experience doing though, so an informed correction to my ideas would be appreciated...

i see. however, we need to stress a few points.

1) not everybody is tryina put more mass. some wanna cut. and, for cutting, nothing IMO works better than a light dosage of test along with thermogenics.

2) many use efedrine not for its "fat burning characteristics" but because of the "boost" in energy levels that a moderate dose 30 minutes pre workout will induce.

 

[georgie24]

i see. however, we need to stress a few points.

1) not everybody is tryina put more mass. some wanna cut. and, for cutting, nothing IMO works better than a light dosage of test along with thermogenics.

2) many use efedrine not for its "fat burning characteristics" but because of the "boost" in energy levels that a moderate dose 30 minutes pre workout will induce.

Damn right on bro!