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AAS "Active" life?

pinsnfriends

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Can anyone point me in the direction to find "active" life of AAS? Did a search and came up with a bunch of stuff that didn't look like what I was asking for. I found "half" lives and "active half" lives, but not what I am looking for. thanks....
 
Not sure, but I think hammertime30 might have something like that.
Send him a pm if nobody gives you an answer.
 
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Anadrol50/Anapolan50: 8 - 12 hours 3 weeks
Deca durabolan: 3 weeks 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 - 8 hours 3 weeks
Equipoise: 17 - 21 days 3 weeks
Finajet/Trenbolone: 3 days 3 weeks
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OK, according to "Building the Perfect Beast", roids have half lives and "active lives". I know where to find half lives of gear, but not "active lives" of all gear. For example, test enanthate has an active life of about 14 days. (i think) Therefore the acitve life peaks at day 7 and falls off at about day 14. This is the kind of info I'm looking for. Now if half life can be closely related to active life, as for as total time, then you could simply look at the half lives and divide by 2 to get the peak active life, but I don't know if that would be correct. That's why I'm here and asking. thanks, pins
 
pinsnfriends said:
Can anyone point me in the direction to find "active" life of AAS? Did a search and came up with a bunch of stuff that didn't look like what I was asking for. I found "half" lives and "active half" lives, but not what I am looking for. thanks....

The total amount of time any drug is in your system is generally the half life times 5 or 6. Thats what my doc told me, anyway.

Metabolites can remain even longer....
 
pinsnfriends said:
OK, according to "Building the Perfect Beast", roids have half lives and "active lives". I know where to find half lives of gear, but not "active lives" of all gear. For example, test enanthate has an active life of about 14 days. (i think) Therefore the acitve life peaks at day 7 and falls off at about day 14. This is the kind of info I'm looking for. Now if half life can be closely related to active life, as for as total time, then you could simply look at the half lives and divide by 2 to get the peak active life, but I don't know if that would be correct. That's why I'm here and asking. thanks, pins

The active life is not exactly like the half life of AAS...nor is the peak time that straight forward where you can simply divide it by 2....Believe it or not...although test cyp has a half life of 12 days or so, your blood concentration levels peak within the first 2 days of the injection period....Test have shown that after injecting 200mg of test cyp into a subject that a blood level of 50mg was produced within the first 48 hours and then drop dramatically within the next 2-3 days....after that the blood concentration stayed relatively steady over the next 10 days....so although many believe that long esters offer the most even blood concentration levels, test have should that you still have a large spike within the first couple of days followed by a large drop off over the next 48 hours before the blood levels stabilize. Which brings up another good argument that is keeping steady blood levels of hormonal really the best way to make the most dramatic gains??

This also occurs with long ester EQ which explains why within the first 3 days of a large injection, you get the flu type, severe hunger symptoms and then nothing after that until the next large injection......

Unfortunately, you will not find the "peak active lives" of all gear because of the numbering varibles involved.....I've found a few, but not all that I would like to have.........
 
Hey hammertime30, I just wanted to say thanks, I appreciate your input. It seems that there must not be many of us that have considered these "peak active lives" of gear. I don't know just how important these peak times are, I just think it something worth looking into. Thanks to everybody for the responses. later....pins
 
pinsnfriends said:
Hey hammertime30, I just wanted to say thanks, I appreciate your input. It seems that there must not be many of us that have considered these "peak active lives" of gear. I don't know just how important these peak times are, I just think it something worth looking into. Thanks to everybody for the responses. later....pins

The peak times are very important being that this is when you get the largest uptake of nutrients.....In theory, it's stated that it's best to keep a stable consentration in the blood levels being that actual muscle growth can occur at any moment, also to maintain a steady flow of nutrients....however in actuality, after reading various measurement studies, even with long esters, AAS is released into the blood in varying peaks, and not even consentrations, therefore while we are taking all these extra injections to attempt to maintain stable blood levels, we are simply increasing the amount of lower varying peaks which is the true way the body releases natural hormones.....many can attack all day that better gains are made through even distribution of the synthetic substances for a lengthy time, but now after reading about how quickly the body can adapt, I see why after a few weeks of particular substances, the gains come to a stop........

Let's take tren for example...the half life of acetate is 3 days....so which dosing episode is really the most effective or just as effective??

If we took 75mg ed or if we 200mg e3d.......many take 75mg ed which result in a much lower peak level over the next 3 days as opposed to 200mg e3d....will the higher peak levels of a 200mg dose yield greater gains or more sides than the more frequent lower peak levels of 75mg?...I have to question this because I've found the single dosing of dbol to be more effective because of the higher peak levels for a longer period of time vs spitting...
 
this is the plasma concentration chart for Testoviron Enanthate from Schering:
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hammertime30 said:
The active life is not exactly like the half life of AAS...nor is the peak time that straight forward where you can simply divide it by 2....Believe it or not...although test cyp has a half life of 12 days or so, your blood concentration levels peak within the first 2 days of the injection period....Test have shown that after injecting 200mg of test cyp into a subject that a blood level of 50mg was produced within the first 48 hours and then drop dramatically within the next 2-3 days....after that the blood concentration stayed relatively steady over the next 10 days....so although many believe that long esters offer the most even blood concentration levels, test have should that you still have a large spike within the first couple of days followed by a large drop off over the next 48 hours before the blood levels stabilize. Which brings up another good argument that is keeping steady blood levels of hormonal really the best way to make the most dramatic gains??

This also occurs with long ester EQ which explains why within the first 3 days of a large injection, you get the flu type, severe hunger symptoms and then nothing after that until the next large injection......

Unfortunately, you will not find the "peak active lives" of all gear because of the numbering varibles involved.....I've found a few, but not all that I would like to have.........

I don't know if you read my posts on other threads but i have been theorising for a few years now that the commonly accepted view of "stable" concetrations of hormones may not be the most effective. That mimmicking the "spikes" or bursts of natural hormone production may be the best way to achieve gains, and sustanon does this very well, with 4 esters it has a lot of spikes and yields better gains with less sides and with smalles dosages. I'm glad you took notice of this, because every time i brought this up it was ignored 100% of the time, as are most ideas that go against the grain.
 
GREGORY said:
I don't know if you read my posts on other threads but i have been theorising for a few years now that the commonly accepted view of "stable" concetrations of hormones may not be the most effective. That mimmicking the "spikes" or bursts of natural hormone production may be the best way to achieve gains, and sustanon does this very well, with 4 esters it has a lot of spikes and yields better gains with less sides and with smalles dosages. I'm glad you took notice of this, because every time i brought this up it was ignored 100% of the time, as are most ideas that go against the grain.

I hear ya...but I'm an engineer so I like going against the grain and/or challenging old theories....who says that just because someone has been doing something a certain way for 20 years that there isn't a more effective way of doing it.....If it doesn't ring true or beneficial then at least I'm satisfied with understanding what or why I'm doing a particular thing and not just because someone else said...."this is the best way".....
 
I feel Loved! just kiddin'. Thanks to everyone for taking part in this. If any of you come across some more info, please let me know. thanks again...pins
 
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