A word on fina---!

[naughty]

Yes I do believe the stuff is great but ,,, I have been away from the board for awhile now due to extreme depresion- the stuff really effected me like no other steroid I have ever taken-- absolutely no sex drive for 4 weeks poist cycle even with clomid-- My gains were increidible but I will never use fina without test again--I had a sickly feeling and depresed feeling following the cyle--- did'nt want to htalk to anyone and shit like that--- very recless but I still am lifting hard and prepareing for next cyle------ keep most of vacularity but lost the strength--- took 10 pellets oraly for the last 8 weeks of the cycle

 

[jacshelb]

In your other post you mention that it was a five month cycle. Not trying to flame, just thought that might be a factor as well as the volume (which may be fine for many). I wonder if the same thing would happen with a shorter, less cycle. If anyone has any experiences (fina), I would be interested in hearing them.

Thanks,

Jacshelb

 

[Big Brother Val]

Sorry to hear that. But a good point was raised... not sure if you can just blame the Fina or not. True, it could have been a factor. Today is my last Fina shot. In 3 days I will begin my clomid. If something similar happens to me... then shit... if not, perhaps the rest of your cycle also had something to do with it. 5 months is a long time.

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

Hey Val, what does your cycle look like and what type of gains did you get?

 

[Big Brother Val]

I ran Fina for 7 weeks. Test Cyp ended during the first 3 weeks of that. Fina at 75 mgs/day. It was more or less a run to see if I would get gyno from the Fina, as I do from Deca.

Some say Fina has nothing to do with burning fat. But I'll tell you this: My diet wasn't nearly as clean as it normally is, and I lost a great deal of fat... got great vascularity, strength, and muscle hardness. According to the scale, I gained 8 lbs. With the bodyfat loss, I'd put it closer to 11.

Next cycle will consist of 100-150 mgs/ day of Fina, combined with EQ, and test cyp, starting sometime in November.

I truly love the Fina. It just may be the most result producing compound I have taken.

 

[naughty]

no flame needed--my cycle was 5 months just ran fina for the last 8 weeks----

 

[naughty]

HEY jacshelb!

You would be stupid to asume that I would run fina for 5 months --that would be crazy! read up on your gear before you reply--dude

 

[Big Brother Val]

I hear you. I didn't think you ran the Fina for that long. I hear with some people, it destroys their sex drive. For me, it actually increases it. I don't think I'll have a problem when I come off. I was just saying that it may be possible that it wasn't just the Fina that caused your problem, but some other factors. 5 months is a long time to be on.

 

[Zyglamail]

my cycle was 5 months just ran fina for the last 8 weeks

I guess im a little lost. You ran juice for 5 moths straight, ending it with fina and you blame all your probs on fina? Thats seems a bit silly to me. The reason you had no labido was because you had been on gear so long you were shut down hard. I got mine back after 8 days when I ran fina, but I bet if I ran a 5 month cycle with No fina it would have taken a lot longer too. Due to the extreme nature of your cycle I think it would be much more beneficial to the community if you placed blam on the whole cycle and not just one product.

On another note, all AAS effects us all a little different some guys get anxiety on EQ others have no probs, some get rage on fina, some dont. If ya dont like fina, then by all means find another AAS.

 

[drgoodbody]

It wasn't the Fina....

Yup, agreed with that last post. It isn't likely the Fina that caused your libido problems but the fact that you ran a cycle for 5 months. Your endogenous Testosterone production likely shut down after the first 2-3 weeks on. For a cycle that long I hope you used HCG during and of course Clomid. Coming off I hope you tapered and went to short half life esters (Btw, Fina is fairly short acting but not short enough.) If not, the you've likely got some testicular shrinkage/atrophy and a long way to go before you feel normal again.

So I wouldn't blame the Fina, although it certainly didn't help given that it just is a short enough half-life ester to come off on.

DrG

 

[M56M]

I ran Fina for 7 weeks. Test Cyp ended during the first 3 weeks of that. Fina at 75 mgs/day. It was more or less a run to see if I would get gyno from the Fina, as I do from Deca.

Some say Fina has nothing to do with burning fat. But I'll tell you this: My diet wasn't nearly as clean as it normally is, and I lost a great deal of fat... got great vascularity, strength, and muscle hardness. According to the scale, I gained 8 lbs. With the bodyfat loss, I'd put it closer to 11.

Next cycle will consist of 100-150 mgs/ day of Fina, combined with EQ, and test cyp, starting sometime in November.

I truly love the Fina. It just may be the most result producing compound I have taken.

Did you experience any other sides? How was your rage did you feel an increase on it?

BTW, how is everything with that Lady situation? Hope all is good...

THIS IS THE NEXT CYCLE!!!
*frontloading the EQ/Sust. and then going to use fina/winny to help with the delay between "clomid delay time".

week 1 - eq 1200mg (6x200mg inj)
week 1 - sust 750mg(3x 250mg inj)
week 2 - eq 1200mg (6x200mg inj)
week 3-8 eq 600mg (3x 200mg inj)
week 3-8 sust 500mg (2x 250mg inj)
Week 5-10 fina 75mg/ED
Week 5-10 winny 50mg/EOD

**?with this method do you think it is ok to just go 8 weeks with the EQ?***

I retain alot of water on sust. can i use a nolva pill EOD to help with that?


M56M

 

[The Shadow]

MOOOOO!!!!

 

[Big Brother Val]

M56M... thank you for your concern on my situation. I appreciate it. I'll update that post. Things really went bad yesterday.

As far as aggression... hell yeah it was increased. Man... I had no yellow or orange zones. I was either really calm... or ready to destroy a small country. The aggression was VERY noticeable. Other than that, not much. Darkening of urin bigtime. Had to drink a whole lot of water. 2 gallons a day was my goal, and with my job, that's hard to do. But that's it. No gyno, acne... nothing.

Strength, muscle hardness, vascularity, lean muscle gains, and decreased bodyfat. I don't think I'll cycle again without it.

Your cycle looks great. I'd run the EQ to week 10, and hit the Fina weeks 7-12. Everything would run out of your system at about the same time that way. Needless to say I love EQ, and like to take it for longer periods of time.

Other than that, it looks almost identicle to the Cyp/EQ/Fina cycle I will be running beginning in November.

 

[M56M]

M56M... thank you for your concern on my situation. I appreciate it. I'll update that post. Things really went bad yesterday.

As far as aggression... hell yeah it was increased. Man... I had no yellow or orange zones. I was either really calm... or ready to destroy a small country. The aggression was VERY noticeable. Other than that, not much. Darkening of urin bigtime. Had to drink a whole lot of water. 2 gallons a day was my goal, and with my job, that's hard to do. But that's it. No gyno, acne... nothing.

Strength, muscle hardness, vascularity, lean muscle gains, and decreased bodyfat. I don't think I'll cycle again without it.

Your cycle looks great. I'd run the EQ to week 10, and hit the Fina weeks 7-12. Everything would run out of your system at about the same time that way. Needless to say I love EQ, and like to take it for longer periods of time.

Other than that, it looks almost identicle to the Cyp/EQ/Fina cycle I will be running beginning in November.

Thats why i asked about it, the cycles look really similiar. What are you going to do to battle water retention if anything? I seem to hold alot of water on test.

I love EQ also the pumps and the viens are awesome, can't wait to try out 600mg a week!!! I think i am going to take your advice on running the EQ for the 12 weeks, i think it will help me keep more of my gains from the sust. also. Thanks alot bro.

M56M

 

[Big Brother Val]

Well... I don't hold a lot of water on test, but my test dosage will only be 400 mgs a week for 10. Either 600 or 800 mgs a week on EQ for 10 , and 100-150 mgs Fina daily. The Fina will run the last 8 weeks of the cycle. EQ will stay in the system for around 2 weeks, I believe. So if I stop the Fina two weeks after my last EQ shot, then start my clomid 3 days after my last Fina shot... my system should be cleared out by then.

 

[naughty]

ok....

yes I can atribute much of the problms to fina-- when I say 5months that is not nessarily straight- some body builders stay on year-long--others bridge ....My cycle in theory has'nt ended just at this point in my bodybuilder I feel this lull and depresion from the fina it seems---