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*****A message to Matt Green (The Almighty)******

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I am sure you have some sort of reason for what you have done, maybe you need to pay off school bills to graduate or maybe you just got greedy. What ever the reason I do not care. It is people like you that ruin it for all the other people on the board who are honest. This is how people get in trouble. If every one was honest there would not be half the arrests, "ratting out", and people getting hurt using fake shit. Along with the cardinal sin you have commited by scamming. Your Behavior can only be described as self destructive. You have stolen money from people who trusted in you and not only have you pissed them off, you have pissed off every other person who has ever been scammed. Going through all of your old posts at a elite I noticed that you would always ask people to give you Karma, well this time you do not even have to ask. You are in way over your head and messing with not a couple of people but a community of people. I have had several emails from people I do not know who want all of your info. Now we have given you many oppurtunities to correct the situation you are on your last leg if there is not a immediate correction of the situation things could get much worse for you. Do the right thing and refund all of the money so no one else has to get involved.
 
damn people, just face it, you got scammed and thats it. IT HAPPENS, and it will happen again. I too think he's a piece of shit, but there is no need in every roid raging and venting monster behind a keyboard making threats and posts about something that is a very common risk in this game. KARMA is REAL its not given by clicks of a mouse, what goes around comes around and one day he will get his. But i promise you this, he won't be refunding anyone's money, and he won't be making things right, he took some money and ran, its as simple as that, i can name multiple incidents of this happening in the past, i got it for almost a grand one time, but making threats and raging with capital letters won't do shit, just post him as a scammer and thats about all you can do. live with it
 
uummm...he's been banned so he won;'t be able to read that
 
DRR is right...he made the decision to do this...he's not just gonna decide he fucked up and start giving money back. This shit happens...it sucks, you gotta move on. It's happened to me before, and you just gotta learn from it...I won't get scammed again I'm pretty sure of that.

And guards has a good point too...but he'l probably check it out on someone else's computer.
 
he knows he fucked up, and yeh, he's probably a little scared, but most likely no single person who he scammed will hunt him down and whoop his ass, there is too much to lose over that. It may not happen next week or next year, but before he dies he'll get what he deserves, rather it be a horrible car accident or some bitch stealing his life savings, what goes around come around
 
he is posting at other boards under el almighty, there is a story that he was in jail for possesion or some shit I forget what board either fitnessgeared or steroidology
 
here's the link....he was arrested and is now trying to make good with people....it's really none of my business as I have no vested intersted in it.....I guess people need to sit back and see what happens.....I've been scammed countless times and I chalk it up to being part of the game....at least he's made contact with those that lost money....that's more we can say for most that go bad......

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8100&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
 
If we sit back and take it the problem will increase. We need to send a message to those who are doing this shit so people no they cannot get away with that. For all of you people who think this should be dropped, you are just encouraging these types of people. If any one was ever scammed in my area i would 100% do my best to help them out. why? to stop this bullshit in its tracks. There have been alot of people who have been helpful but the haters who say it is part of the game are just making the situation worse for everybody.
 
x/x said:
If we sit back and take it the problem will increase. We need to send a message to those who are doing this shit so people no they cannot get away with that. For all of you people who think this should be dropped, you are just encouraging these types of people. If any one was ever scammed in my area i would 100% do my best to help them out. why? to stop this bullshit in its tracks. There have been alot of people who have been helpful but the haters who say it is part of the game are just making the situation worse for everybody.

I agree that something should be done but please keep it to PM....you are involving this board in dealings that are not in its best interest.
 
guards said:
uummm...he's been banned so he won;'t be able to read that

The Almighty can still read all of the threads as an anonymous, non-registered viewer of EF----although he can't reply or post to any threads. That is what I was able to do when my account was temporarily "disabled" a while back.
 
bro, im not "hating" on anyone, but it is part of the game, this is the black market, not walgreens, you don't have to be certified or meet guidlines to be a internet juice dealer. I guarantee you if you knew 90% of dealers on the net you wouldn't believe how stupid or incompetent they actually are. You may not want to hear it, but it DOES happen, you can go hunt him down and rip him apart, but some chump will do it again, and anyone with a little more brains than almighty could have taken more money and no one would be able to trace him at all, its his stupidity alone that is giving you people enough info to make these threats.
 
gilly6993 said:
here's the link....he was arrested and is now trying to make good with people....it's really none of my business as I have no vested intersted in it.....I guess people need to sit back and see what happens.....I've been scammed countless times and I chalk it up to being part of the game....at least he's made contact with those that lost money....that's more we can say for most that go bad......

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8100&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

If he's keeping contact, that is a good sign...although, they usually tend to keep contact for a little bit...and it slowly wanes over time, until you don't hear from them at all.

I also have no vested interest, I didn't even know he turned source. But you just gotta accept it, I've been scammed a few times...generico and kj come to mind.
 
HULKSTER said:


The Almighty can still read all of the threads as an anonymous, non-registered viewer of EF----although he can't reply or post to any threads. That is what I was able to do when my account was temporarily "disabled" a while back.

I assume they banned his IP addy...so he probably cant even read posts.
 
DRRman said:
haha, KJ got me too, fuckign bastard

That son of a bitch got alot of people...at least he was smart enough to build up his service for a long time before scamming...he must have made a good bundle of cash.
 
just a group of me and some others i knew of, we counted over 25,000 between us alone, and we were only a small portion, i estimate he took at least 100k
 
DDRman - I see where your coming from bro and in most cases you're right, there isn't shit you can do about it. That's because many scammers originate from another country and it's near impossible to track them down.

But this is the US bro, and in the age of the Internet it is VERY EASY to track someone when you have their real name. I won't even get into how much info I have on this guy but he will be found. I'm not threatening - I'm guaranteeing it.



It's kind of funny to me how many people take a defeatist attitude and I agree with x/x that this kind of attitude only promotes scamming. We as a community have to stop this shit from happening and you really wouldn't believe how many people are willing to do so. When I was scammed by Hugewannabe I had a ton of people come out of the woodwork to help. I was no where near Canada yet I found out where he worked, his full name, the gym he worked out at, his best friends name, etc. He was found and he was eventually persuaded to give the money back. ...and I didn't have near the info that I have on The Almighty.
 
seen it happen every time, bad karma will come back and bite you in the ass. very true. but hey, if you are pissed enough to take a trip to beat someones ass over 1000 bucks, more power to you. he'll get his in the end though either way, guarantee it. like DRR said karma is real shit, not like we play with on the board.
 
mvmaxxx said:
DDRman - I see where your coming from bro and in most cases you're right, there isn't shit you can do about it. That's because many scammers originate from another country and it's near impossible to track them down.

But this is the US bro, and in the age of the Internet it is VERY EASY to track someone when you have their real name. I won't even get into how much info I have on this guy but he will be found. I'm not threatening - I'm guaranteeing it.



It's kind of funny to me how many people take a defeatist attitude and I agree with x/x that this kind of attitude only promotes scamming. We as a community have to stop this shit from happening and you really wouldn't believe how many people are willing to do so. When I was scammed by Hugewannabe I had a ton of people come out of the woodwork to help. I was no where near Canada yet I found out where he worked, his full name, the gym he worked out at, his best friends name, etc. He was found and he was eventually persuaded to give the money back. ...and I didn't have near the info that I have on The Almighty.

If you can track him down and get your money back without getting into trouble yourself, then all the power to ya...Good luck. But sometimes you just gotta take it as a loss...especially when you're dealing with illegal substances.

I'm having a problem dealing with a fucking computer, I got screwed out of $1800 and this shithead is easy to track down, I just can't get out there.

While we're going after people...anyone live in the Michigan area? ;)
 
bro, im not meaning to take an attitude or side, you have the right to be pissed and if you think hunting him down and hurting or punishing him is worth it, then by all means go do it if it makes you feel better. But why put yourself or someone else at risk just to get back at him? what if they are watching him, know who you are due to an outstanding order, you kick his ass, go to jail, then they know even more about you, i know it sounds out there, but fucking police can do what they want and then you just have to pay to prove them wrong. Im in NO way promoting scamming, you gotta do what you gotta do, but in most cases when a person gets scammed its in their best interest to chalk it up as a loss and forget about it

most of us are too hotheaded and if we did have his name and addy and went looking for hime we'd probably do something very stupid. Anyways im just trying to say that in most cases hunting down and promoting harm will only get you in trouble
 
mvmaxxx said:


I know someone. :evil:

It's alllllll who you know bro. ;)

I know bro...I've actually contacted a few people from the boards out there...and they've paid him a visit...hasn't helped yet. I'm getting close on this guy though...it's been almost a year since this fuck screwed me. I'm gonna get him eventually though...If I have to fly out there...then I have to fly out there...it's not about the money any more.:mad:
 
Bulldog_10 said:


I know bro...I've actually contacted a few people from the boards out there...and they've paid him a visit...hasn't helped yet. I'm getting close on this guy though...it's been almost a year since this fuck screwed me. I'm gonna get him eventually though...If I have to fly out there...then I have to fly out there...it's not about the money any more.:mad:

not the fucking computer scam again......lol.......
 
THE_BIG_FED said:


not the fucking computer scam again......lol.......

hahaha...fuck off...I have other things to do, so I can't put all my effort towards this guy...it takes me a while. But it's summer time now, I have nothing to do for a month...so I'll see what I can get done.
 
Bulldog_10 said:


That son of a bitch got alot of people...at least he was smart enough to build up his service for a long time before scamming...he must have made a good bundle of cash.

Just like CoolHandLuke. It's estimated that he made off with between $40-50 Grand. And that's from the bros that came forward. The take was probably over $50 grand.
 
HULKSTER said:


Just like CoolHandLuke. It's estimated that he made off with between $40-50 Grand. And that's from the bros that came forward. The take was probably over $50 grand.

Maybe we shouldn't be talking about this...may make for more scammers.
 
Bulldog_10 said:


hahaha...fuck off...I have other things to do, so I can't put all my effort towards this guy...it takes me a while. But it's summer time now, I have nothing to do for a month...so I'll see what I can get done.

5 years from now we'll be hearing about the computer scam. lol. you want me to help you out to get the guy? we'll kick his ass and be done with it then you can stop this nonsense. computer was probably worth $18.
 
THE_BIG_FED said:


5 years from now we'll be hearing about the computer scam. lol. you want me to help you out to get the guy? we'll kick his ass and be done with it then you can stop this nonsense. computer was probably worth $18.

$1800 that is...it was a fuckin brand new apple ibook...about a week old. When I bought it the guy said I could return it within a week if I wanted to, no questions asked. Then I brought it back, and the guy was like "well, our policy is..blah blah blah, and we wont take it back." So I said, "i dont give a fuck what your policy is, what did YOU tell me the other day?" and he gave me some bullshit...so I went off on him, and threatened to beat the shit out of him outside...he was scared shitless. But I didn't do anything about it, cuz i didnt want to get arrested and I'm a big pussy.

I can't wait to get this fuckin guy who screwed me over...it will be soon.
 
Bulldog_10 said:


$1800 that is...it was a fuckin brand new apple ibook...about a week old. When I bought it the guy said I could return it within a week if I wanted to, no questions asked. Then I brought it back, and the guy was like "well, our policy is..blah blah blah, and we wont take it back." So I said, "i dont give a fuck what your policy is, what did YOU tell me the other day?" and he gave me some bullshit...so I went off on him, and threatened to beat the shit out of him outside...he was scared shitless. But I didn't do anything about it, cuz i didnt want to get arrested and I'm a big pussy.

I can't wait to get this fuckin guy who screwed me over...it will be soon.

hahaha! i was going to whoop a guys ass at best buy on a similar situation. but i was like fuck it. then i have to fight security best buy guys and get arrested. was it at a store? if so, i'd have talked to the manager and made a fucking stink over it and got my money back. shit i'd have kept it, i want one of those!!!!!!
 
THE_BIG_FED said:


hahaha! i was going to whoop a guys ass at best buy on a similar situation. but i was like fuck it. then i have to fight security best buy guys and get arrested. was it at a store? if so, i'd have talked to the manager and made a fucking stink over it and got my money back. shit i'd have kept it, i want one of those!!!!!!

yeah, I made sure the manager heard when i was screaming at the guy. He gave me the same shit, "our policy is...blah blah blah." I bet I could have made a stink about it and maybe gotten my money back, but i was too pissed, I just flipped out.

YOU MOTHER FUCKER! I wish i knew that, I would have sold it to you. This guy has been a pain in my balls. I got a call from the police in his town today, and they gave me the same shit all the other police depts. out there have been giving me "we can't do shit." That's fucking bullshit, this is obviously against the law, why is it that no one can do anything about it?

I'm getting pissed just thinking about it. This fuck is going down. If he makes me fly out there, he's gonna be in some shit. Maybe I'll pay for you to fly up there with me and we'll tag team his ass.
 
Bulldog_10 said:


yeah, I made sure the manager heard when i was screaming at the guy. He gave me the same shit, "our policy is...blah blah blah." I bet I could have made a stink about it and maybe gotten my money back, but i was too pissed, I just flipped out.

YOU MOTHER FUCKER! I wish i knew that, I would have sold it to you. This guy has been a pain in my balls. I got a call from the police in his town today, and they gave me the same shit all the other police depts. out there have been giving me "we can't do shit." That's fucking bullshit, this is obviously against the law, why is it that no one can do anything about it?

I'm getting pissed just thinking about it. This fuck is going down. If he makes me fly out there, he's gonna be in some shit. Maybe I'll pay for you to fly up there with me and we'll tag team his ass.

yeah, and my payment will be you selling the the puter for cheap when we ransack his house. :evil: does he do AAS? even more loot for us! ;)
 
Bulldog_10 said:


That son of a bitch got alot of people...at least he was smart enough to build up his service for a long time before scamming...he must have made a good bundle of cash.

got that right...that is messed up. thought he was a stand up dude then out of nowhere.bam...luckily i didnt have an order pending at the time. i barely missed that tornado evidently.
 
mvmaxxx said:
DDRman - I see where your coming from bro and in most cases you're right, there isn't shit you can do about it. That's because many scammers originate from another country and it's near impossible to track them down.

But this is the US bro, and in the age of the Internet it is VERY EASY to track someone when you have their real name. I won't even get into how much info I have on this guy but he will be found. I'm not threatening - I'm guaranteeing it.



It's kind of funny to me how many people take a defeatist attitude and I agree with x/x that this kind of attitude only promotes scamming. We as a community have to stop this shit from happening and you really wouldn't believe how many people are willing to do so. When I was scammed by Hugewannabe I had a ton of people come out of the woodwork to help. I was no where near Canada yet I found out where he worked, his full name, the gym he worked out at, his best friends name, etc. He was found and he was eventually persuaded to give the money back. ...and I didn't have near the info that I have on The Almighty.

At last the voice of reason IMHO

After reading thread after thread where people just accept being scammed as part and parcel of teh game this does not act as a deterrant but more of an invitation to scam Elitefitness member as it is an accepted risk?

These things do need to be handled correctly and as mvmaxxx has said he just wants a refund for items that were not recieved. In normal business (and this is business for sources) this is standard service offering.

As someone else mentioned this is the black market and can think of no other trade where if ytou do not recieve your order you simply accept and move on?

We are all entitled to our opinions and there is some truth that it will nto stop scammers but may help to deter and also save Elite from becoming the place to scam members.

I am sure i will get flamed for this but thought it had to be said

Peace

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