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krmass24

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I am starting to plan out costs for the first cycle. I don't know how much gear i will have to buy to be able to do this cycle. Check it out.

20yrs old 5'8'' 155lbs 5%bf

***Human Grade Deca / Proviron
Week 1: 600mgs week / 50mgs ED
Week 2: 600mgs week / 50mgs ED
Week 3: 300mgs week / 50mgs ED
Week 4: 300mgs week / 50mgs ED
Week 5: 300mgs week / 50mgs ED
Week 6: 300mgs week / 50mgs ED
Week 7: 300mgs week / 50mgs ED
Week 8: 300mgs week / 50mgs ED
Week 9: 300mgs week / 50mgs ED
Week 10: ********0 / 50mgs ED
Week 11: ********0 / 50mgs ED
Week 12: ********0 / 0
Week 13: Begin Clomid/H C G Therapy

I was planning on a cycle somthing like this. I thought maybe I could take some anavar along with it to harden everything up. Should i take INs.?

When I go to order i see things like this...
-DECA durabolin 300mg/ml 10ml \$50,5 for $200

HOw much would I be getting? WOuld it be enough? IS it a good deal? I need to know so I don't make a dumb mistake.
Thanks a lot guys, Don't worry i have thought this out and I have been training for 2 years hard and I am in nice shape.
 
Well....First off let me say that I'm glad you have decided not to go with GH.

For that cycle you will need 11ml, if I were you I would cut the front-load down to one week and just get one 10ml bottle of deca.

I wouldn't use HCG post-cycle, you should be fine with just the clomid. Just keep an eye on your nips in case of gyno, might wanna have some winny or RU486 on hand just in case.

And if I remember correctly...You said that your epiphysis have not closed, and you still want to grow a few more inches, right? Well, if that's the case...I'd hold off on this cycle bro.

Good Luck with whatever you decide man!

B-10
 
I wouldn't do HCG either and at 155 lbs. I wouldn't do 600 mgs., 400 will do just fine, then go down to 200 mgs., more does NOT mean better bro, see how you're body does before you start taking that much...and BTW, that wasn't a stupid question dude, that's why you're here
 
I wouldn't do HCG either and at 155 lbs. I wouldn't do 600 mgs., 400 will do just fine, then go down to 200 mgs., more does NOT mean better bro, see how you're body does before you start taking that much...and BTW, that wasn't a stupid question dude, that's why you're here
 
I wouldn't do HCG either and at 155 lbs. I wouldn't do 600 mgs., 400 will do just fine, then go down to 200 mgs., more does NOT mean better bro, see how you're body does before you start taking that much...and BTW, that wasn't a stupid question dude, that's why you're here
 
wow. so it is only going to cost me $50 for the deca portion of my cycle! that is cheap. I am used to looking for prices on gh and they are all 400 - 1000 So I spend 50 on the deca, 20 or so on the proviron and some more on the clomid and SHould I use Liquidex. I realy am prone to gyno and want to take somthing shureshot for it. Let me know what you guys think* Thanks bros
 
I was going ot take gh with my first cycle to make sure i got a lot of gh in my blood but now i know how to hold off and still take AS without risking the closure of my epiphysees. The gyno is what makes yoiur growth plates close if you take AS to young and don't watch the gyno after. I'm gonna keep that in check and thats why i asked about the liquidex or hcg, or... What is a Good ANti-BITCH TIT mediacation lol WHat would you guys reccommend for a longer term use that would be less harmfull and would still do the job. Thanks guys peace:p
 
Liquidex will do NOTHING for progesterone gyno, which is what you can get from deca. If you can get some RU-486, that would be your best bet for this. If not, you can throw some winny into the cycle from week 5-12, and start clomid in week 13. But winny hasn't been proven to fight prog gyno.

I'd hit up some test at 400mg/wk and take arimidex at .25mg/ED along with it. That should ensure that you don't get gyno.
 
not gyno......

Gyno doesnt close your growth plates.....its estrogen....Which is a result of aromatized testosterone/d-bol/any other roid that converts to estrogen. The estrogen can definitely cause gyno, but gyno itself doesnt affect your height. Im not sure if deca which converts to progesterone has any affect on growth plates...i know estrogen does, but does progesterone...they may be so similar in structure or there may be both estro/progesterone sites at the growth plates. This in turn would mess up growth plates too....but i dont know about prog. like i said. I wish someone would finally clear this part up too...the prog. part. Good luck if you decide to do your cycle. Oh if you wanna be really safe, use oxandrolone (AKA anavar) but im sure you know this. good luck.
 
If your worried about progesterone gyno then just use durabolin. Inject like every 3-4 days. Thing is if you start to see progesterone gyno appearing just cease the cycle and it will get out of your system quickly compared to deca.
 
I thought deca was durabolin. I thought the whole name was deca-durabolin. Same stuff? Can you clarify :confused: ????
 
NIce how does this stack sound?

D-bol/anavar/liquidex (low dose for natural est.)
start liquidex later in cycle : after cycle do clomid therapy Think I should just drop the proviron? What are the advantages and disadvantages of using it. I would rather go with liquidex for est then proviron. Tell me what you guys think. honestly.....
 
no d-bol..

D-bol is the last thing you should do if you are still worried bout growing taller- arent you? It has a high conversion to estrogen...i know you will be taking liquidex...but i dont think it stops 100% of the d-bol-> estrogen. Anavar would be perfect. Eat right and you will gain well.
 
thanks man that actually sounds better. I am going to start my first cycle with some anivar and maybe some liquidex at a low dosage. Then I am going to up my cycle to GH and T-3 with more liquidex. Once I finish the T-3 cycle I might do some anivar again. SOunds like a nice plan that is low risk for stunting growth.
 
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