I know a gym fren who took the pink thais at a low dose (20-25mg ED) for 4 mths!! He combined it with creatine. He had some bad acne on his back, but his growth was fantastic. He was a lean skinny guy, but he put on much more lean body mass. He had terrific muscular details and vascular pumped gains. I saw no water retention. Definetely strained his liver, but the end result was impressive. He went on to win a best physique award at a local model contest.
I am impressed but I'm not following suit.
I am impressed but I'm not following suit.

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