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Over 2500 left handed people a year are killed from using products made for right handed people!


Ok, find info that explains how that is possible? First one with a good article gets the k
 
Military equipment

Warfare is a distinct hazard for lefties (completely independent of their politics). The BMJ speculates that the difference may be due to military equipment and training being designed for right-handers (for instance, the ejection of spent cartridges in some automatic weapons was to the right - directly in the face of a left-handed gunner).

http://www.stats.org/record.jsp?type=news&ID=365
 
blut wump said:
Military equipment

Warfare is a distinct hazard for lefties (completely independent of their politics). The BMJ speculates that the difference may be due to military equipment and training being designed for right-handers (for instance, the ejection of spent cartridges in some automatic weapons was to the right - directly in the face of a left-handed gunner).

http://www.stats.org/record.jsp?type=news&ID=365

I need better than that and cutnpaste text so we dont have to click on links BW, but Ill give it thirty minutes, nothing better and the k is yours ;)
 
I think I'd be inclined to consign the 2500 to urban myth. The statement appears in a lot of trivia lists but I'm unable to find any evidence to corroborate it.

I don't feel I deserve any K for that article.
 
Off the top of my head, I'd say industrial equipment and personally operated items like power tools and meat slicers would be bigger contributors than military equipment. The first seems like it'd be the main one. The dangers of working in a factory, which are pretty significant in countries without well-established industrial safety regulations, would be magnified if the machinery was designed for operation by right-handers.
 
blut wump said:
I think I'd be inclined to consign the 2500 to urban myth. The statement appears in a lot of trivia lists but I'm unable to find any evidence to corroborate it.

I agree. Seems like something that'd be more a product of classification than any real phenomenon. In other words, people might be attributing left-handers' deaths to that feature rather than generally dangerous behavior or situations. You can get equally alarming statistics about, say, racism, if every crime against a member of a minority group is assumed to have been motivated by that feature.
 
because you are left handed and you cant use things for right hands
 
The essence of the situation is that there is a declining percentage of left-handers in the population with increasing age. The conclusion wrought from this is that either lefties naturally have shorter life-spans or that our right-handed environment targets them for accidental death. There doesn't seem to be conclusive supporting evidence for either conjecture.
 
Handedness as a Predictor of Increased Risk of Knee, Elbow, or Shoulder Injury, Fractures and Broken Bones

Authors: Coren S.; Previc F. H.

Source: Laterality: Asymmetries of Body, Brain, and Cognition, Volume 1, Number 2, 1 May 1996, pp. 139-152(14)

Publisher:Psychology Press, part of the Taylor & Francis Group


Abstract:
Several recent studies suggest that left-handers have higher susceptibility to accidental injury. Two studies investigated the suggested link between sinistrality and accidental injury by assessing the prevalence of joint problems, bone breaks, and fractures, which may be the sequelae of such mishaps. Study 1 used retrospective responses on medical history checklists completed by 1064 males on active duty with the United States Air Force. It found that left-handers were at significantly higher risk for knee problems (RR = 2.74), elbow and shoulder problems (RR = 3.03), and also swollen and painful joints (RR = 1.87), although there was no difference in the incidence of broken bones. Study 2 used an expanded handedness scale and retrospective reports of both bone breaks and fractures in a predominantly university sample of 1716 (975 women, 741 men) with median age of 20 years, and demonstrated that non-right-handers were at greater risk for bone breaks and fractures (RR = 1.24). As joint problems, as well as bone breaks and fractures, are often the aftermath of accidents that result in falls or collisions with unyielding objects, the fact that left-handers are more likely to suffer from these problems is consistent with the suggestion that sinistrals are more susceptible to accident-related injuries.

Language: English

Document Type: Research article

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/searc...ych/plat/1996/00000001/00000002/art00002&unc=


It doesn't show deaths, but it does show a higher tendency towards accidents...
 
It doesn't show a higher tendncy towards accidents. That's merely the untested hypothesis drawn from the data. I expect they approached the data with the intention of searching for a correlation between left-handedness and accidents and drew an unproven connection between joint problems and accidents. I hate psuedo-science.
 
blut wump said:
It doesn't show a higher tendncy towards accidents. That's merely the untested hypothesis drawn from the data. I expect they approached the data with the intention of searching for a correlation between left-handedness and accidents and drew an unproven connection between joint problems and accidents. I hate psuedo-science.
I agree with you... I just thought I'd post it up anyway.
 
But the question remains: how much do right-handed tools kill lefties? Later we have:

... Calls to the occupational Safety and Health Administration and a soup of other federal agencies charged with tracking health and safety turned up no evidence of maimed or dying lefties. On the other hand, officials admit that this may be because they never ask if accident victims are left-handed. The major labor unions, from the AFL-CIO to the United Auto Workers, also report no complaints from suffering sinsitrals.

And on the "lefties are forced to use right-handed tools" routine:

... "We make a conscious effort to make tools ambidextrous," says Douglas Spranger, president of Human Factors Industrial Design Inc., a New York City firm that has invented hundreds of specialized hand tools, from sugical staplers to a new mascara wand for Lancome. "Lefthanders are 15 percent of our target market. Every maufacturer is concerned with it. But, Spranger concedes, "We [designers] tend to favor the right-handed user. Notice the numerical keypad on your computer. It's not on the left."

Elsewhere the article claims that lefties suffer from a higher incidence of specific health problems, including learning disabilities, depression, migraine, allergies and autoimmune disorders such as rheumatoid arthritus and ulcerative colitus. It also has weird theories as to why which I won't quote.

Conclusions? Maybe there is truth here, but as a math geek, I don't trust the statistics, or the social aspects that influence the results leading to such conclusions. I'm logging off to go throw some rocks at a few rabbits.

dino "ambidextrous as a child, and forced into right-handedness"
 
I didn't know you to be a math geek, Angel.

I was recently drooling over the sight of a keyboard with the numeric pad on the left along with the cursor keys. Ideal for fragging. You can get keyboards without the numeric pad, too. They're much more compact. The Happy Hacking Keyboard is a good one.
 
im a lefty and everything is made for right handled people, you would be surprised the difference in using left and right handed scissors
every sport that you play with one hand i play lefty, tennis, bowling
but sports that use 2 hands i play righty, golf, baseball
i cannot swing a golf club left handed to save my life
 
hamstershaver said:
im a lefty and everything is made for right handled people, you would be surprised the difference in using left and right handed scissors
every sport that you play with one hand i play lefty, tennis, bowling
but sports that use 2 hands i play righty, golf, baseball
i cannot swing a golf club left handed to save my life
same here
 
"Disappearing" Left-Handers
Statistics show that older people are less likely to be left-handed than their younger counterparts — the percentages of lefties sharply drop off with increased age. In America, 12% of 20 year olds are left-handed, while only 5% of 50 year olds and less than 1% of people over 80 are. These numbers are surprisingly divergent — how can they be explained?

A study (no longer deemed credible) published in 1991 claimed that these statistics indicate that left handed peoples' lifespans are shorter than those of their right-handed counterparts by as much as 9 years. They explained this gap by asserting that left-handed people are more likely to die in accidents as a result of their "affliction," which renders them clumsier and ill-equipped to survive in a right-handed world.

This theory is in contention, as some researchers now attribute the different percentages among different age groups to the fact that older people would be more likely to have experienced pressure to switch hands, a factor not affecting the younger generations. This is supported by the fact that more women than men switched hands, and women live longer than men. However, this reasoning cannot explain all variation, and "the case of the disappearing southpaws" remains a mystery. Presently, all explanations are incomplete and speculative, including such ideas that eventually lefties succumb to conformist pressures, or a "biological imperative" grips them late in life and they lose their left-handedness.
 
There are a lot of things that lefties come across in their daily lives that are inconvenient, frustrating or downright dangerous and in a lot of cases there is not very much that can be done about it - the lefties have to adapt or just put up with it.

These are the things that annoy us, or that we think are dangerous. If you have any more to add to the list please let us know.
Chainsaws
Circular saws
London underground barriers
Chainsaws

The way they are designed there is no way to use them left-handed, i.e. left finger on the trigger, without cutting your arm off. We are not aware of anyone who makes a left-handed chainsaw - probably because it would be too dangerous if a right-hander tried to use it!
Circular saws

These are the ones with a rapidly revolving circular blade for cutting straight lines through sheets of board. Again virtually impossible to use left-handed, i.e. left-hand on the trigger and the main handle and right hand on the forward support. There is added fun with these because the sawdust usually blasts out of an exit point on the right of the saw, safely out of the way for a right-hander, but all over a left-hander.
London underground barriers

Those of you unfortunate enough to have to travel on the London Underground trains will know the problem. They now have access barriers at all the stations and you have to put in a valid ticket to get through. The only trouble is that the ticket entry point is on the right hand side of the barrier and left-handers have been known to put their ticket into the left-side slot, opening up the next barrier for someone else to walk through and then being completely stuck as the security system will not then accept the ticket into the right slot.

The other alternative for left-handers is to reach across the body and tie yourself in a knot trying to get the ticket in the right slot with you left-hand. This usually fails and leads to an angry queue of people behind as you try to find the ticket on the floor.

The only real technique is to keep your ticket somewhere easily accessible with your right hand and learn to do it like a right hander!
 
hamstershaver said:
im a lefty and everything is made for right handled people, you would be surprised the difference in using left and right handed scissors
every sport that you play with one hand i play lefty, tennis, bowling
but sports that use 2 hands i play righty, golf, baseball
i cannot swing a golf club left handed to save my life

My father batted left, threw right. Anything he swings, he does with his left hand. He was a power hitter, too.
 
redguru said:
My father batted left, threw right. Anything he swings, he does with his left hand. He was a power hitter, too.

So left is top and right is bottom? Not familiar with the jargon
 
BrothaBill said:
So left is top and right is bottom? Not familiar with the jargon

Yeah, in baseball he would hit from the left side with his left hand over his right. Same in golf, at the top of his swing his left hand would be over his right.
 
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