4th cycle, please critique

[Nighthawkk]

Week 1-3 Denkall Anadrol 75mg ED (split into two doses)
Week 4-5 Dbol 40mg ED
Week 1-6 Sust 250mg EOD (karachi)
Week 1-8 BM dubol (NPP) 200mg E3D

I will have proviron and nolv, any idea how I should run them? I was going to do prov 50mg ED straight through, and just take the nolv during drol/dbol intake @ 20mg ED...still not sure though. Also running milk thistle/ALA throughout. Have cranberry extract if there is a strain on the kidneys, but I doubt it. Any suggestions/criticism/comments are welcome! thanks

Oh yea, stats are: 5'9", 201 lbs, 12%bf, training 6+ years

 

[supervegitto]

looks good, but i would just drop the dbol

 

[Nighthawkk]

anyone else?

 

[BigAndy69]

Pick up some prop and run it for 4 weeks after the sust.

 

[Outtlaw]

Why are you switching to dbol for weeks 4-5? I'd run one or the other.

 

[BIGJAKE]

if it were me i would drop the a-bombs and just run the d-bol 1-5 and run the sus all the way thru 1-8

 

[Nighthawkk]

Why are you switching to dbol for weeks 4-5? I'd run one or the other.

Because I'm trying the drol for the first time and didn't want to run them for more than 3 weeks.

 

[Nighthawkk]

Pick up some prop and run it for 4 weeks after the sust.

As a matter of fact I do have some leftover QV prop that I didn't use during my last cycle. I thought the sust EOD for six weeks would be enough to build up levels of the longer acting esters so that it would taper off, as I would run the NPP two weeks past the last sust jab. I guess 100mg prop EOD could work weeks 6-8 though

 

[supervegitto]

drop the anadrol dose to 50mg and let that take place or the week 4-5
week 1-5 anadrol 50mg
Week 1-6 Sust 250mg EOD (karachi)
Week 1-8 BM dubol (NPP) 200mg E3D

it's totally up to you your gear and your body

 

[pharmguy]

its short

 

[Nighthawkk]

its short

I like shorter cycles

 

[supervegitto]

I like shorter cycles

me to

 

[BigAndy69]

It's not a short cycle, the cycle is actually about 10 weeks.

Sust will be in your system at least 4 weeks so why not take advantage of those last 4 weeks with some extra growth instead of just waiting for it to clear.

I would do the following

W1-4 Anadrol
W1-6 Sust
W1-8 NPP
W7-10 Prop

Be careful with progesterone sides when combining NPP and Anadrol

 

[Nighthawkk]

It's not a short cycle, the cycle is actually about 10 weeks.

Sust will be in your system at least 4 weeks so why not take advantage of those last 4 weeks with some extra growth instead of just waiting for it to clear.

I would do the following

W1-4 Anadrol
W1-6 Sust
W1-8 NPP
W7-10 Prop

Be careful with progesterone sides when combining NPP and Anadrol

You're right, its not all that short...my plan was to work out an "anabolic taper" with the sust since like you said, it will be active for about 3-4 weeks after last jab. The prop would be a good addtion, and I do have enough of it so that I can add it in. As for prosterone, I will run Prov @ 50mg ED. Will that be enough you think, or will I need something else?

 

[Nighthawkk]

^

 

[BigAndy69]

How does proviron help with progesterone sides? I don't think it does.

Bromo or dostinex would be the way to go.

 

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I would drop the d-bol and up the NPP to 400mg/week. I also agree with BigAndy69 about adding the prop, but i would only run the prop. for 3 weeks after the prop. instead of 4 weeks. The Sust should be out of your system in about 18 days.

 

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3 weeks after the Sust. (sorry for my crappy typing)

 

[Nighthawkk]

I would drop the d-bol and up the NPP to 400mg/week. I also agree with BigAndy69 about adding the prop, but i would only run the prop. for 3 weeks after the prop. instead of 4 weeks. The Sust should be out of your system in about 18 days.

NPP is already at 200mg E3D, which is equal to about 400mg pw...about the same as my normal deca dose

 

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Sorry bro, I see now about that NPP dosage. I should have read your thread closer.

 

[Jenetic]

Anadrol and Decca?

I would run Dostinex just to be on the safe side. There is no correlation between progestin induced side effects and Proviron. Save the Proviron for PCT.

BigAndy's cycle advise looks great. Just add in the proper aromatase inhibitors to prevent the problems before they start.

Best of Luck

 

[Nighthawkk]

Are you guys sure anadrol can cause problems with progesterone? I know the NPP might, but I haven't had any problems thus far using up to 400mg pw of nandrolone. I suppose if I need to, I can get bromo or dostinex

 

[Outtlaw]

Are you guys sure anadrol can cause problems with progesterone? I know the NPP might, but I haven't had any problems thus far using up to 400mg pw of nandrolone. I suppose if I need to, I can get bromo or dostinex

It all depends on how you react. I've used them both together before with no problems. I think you should be o.k, its when you start to get to the 600+mg range with the nandrolone that you'd better have something on hand.

 

[Nighthawkk]

It all depends on how you react. I've used them both together before with no problems. I think you should be o.k, its when you start to get to the 600+mg range with the nandrolone that you'd better have something on hand.

Ok cool, that's what I had thought. K to u bro

 

[Nighthawkk]

Ah wait, I have to "spread" it lol...my bad