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3rd cycle tren hex/test e/t3/clen please advise

when you come off T3 and clen you will gain back all your weight

they are temporary solutions. diet and lifestyle determines long term weight loss.

i will gain it all back even if im on lower than maintenance calories?
how so?

my question is how can i dose test/clen/t3 and cycle weights/cardio/hiit
im currently on -500 calories high protein diet now
should i change it ?
 
I would say be cautious doing HIIT while on Clen t3... It can be a dangerous combination of extra stress on the heart... I do HIIT 3 times a week for 10-20 minutes per session, and I am below 10% year round . If you take Clen and t3 I would suggest keeping your cardio to more
Of a slow steady pace and keep the heart rate in Check... I know even on the ECA stack I ran some stairs once and thought my chest wAs going to explode... So be careful mate. You should be able to drop to 15% and less natural without the use of AAS. BUT.., If you are going to use anyway , just be safe and sound , and keep watch on your sides and don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. -Mike
 
i would say be cautious doing hiit while on clen t3... It can be a dangerous combination of extra stress on the heart... I do hiit 3 times a week for 10-20 minutes per session, and i am below 10% year round . If you take clen and t3 i would suggest keeping your cardio to more
of a slow steady pace and keep the heart rate in check... I know even on the eca stack i ran some stairs once and thought my chest was going to explode... So be careful mate. You should be able to drop to 15% and less natural without the use of aas. But.., if you are going to use anyway , just be safe and sound , and keep watch on your sides and don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. -mike

tnx for day adise ill keep it in check
im satying away from tren and changing the cycle to test e to keep it simple and stupid as one of the guys sugested
 
i will gain it all back even if im on lower than maintenance calories?
how so?

my question is how can i dose test/clen/t3 and cycle weights/cardio/hiit
im currently on -500 calories high protein diet now
should i change it ?

the whole calorie thing is a pile of bullshit. i don't teach people to count calories, i don't believe in it, i don't do it. leave that to the chicks who go to weight watchers. but steve why do you say that my personal trainer gave me a sheet to keep track of my calories so you are WRONG!! no i'm not wrong.. all our bodies are different, we have different thyroids. its like coming off a steroid cycle and thinking you will keep setting PR's if you keep working out hard, oh if it only was that easy!

you don't know how many calories you are burning first off on a daily basis, its impossible to know an exact number. secondly your thyroid when you come off T3 will not be functioning the way it should. clen has fat burning properties, where you will be sitting and getting jittery.. you lose that when you come off clen.

why do you think a lot of obese people run low calorie diets and go nowhere cause they have messed up thyroids. or you have fat people at the gym everyday on the elliptical for 50 minutes straight not lose a damn thing.. but steve they are burning calories!! the machine says they burned 1000 calories so it must be true!!! NOPE its not. of course if they go to mcdonalds after their workout it doesn't help either, but going home and cooking up stir fry with biscuits isn't good either. i know people who will be sitting in a chair and dose off to sleep, they have such slow metabolisms that they dose off just from sitting. and they wonder why they can't lose weight.

and there is no way to know how many calories you burn cause everyone's thyroids behave differently. when you come of T3 your metabolism will slow down.. so yes it is very likely you could gain back everything and then some. been there, done that myself.

so unless you want temporary benefits.. like you are gonna take pics or be in a show i really don't see the point in running those compounds especially for a newb in your situation... JMHO

bottom line is DIET DIET DIET DIET, real cardio. in that order. simply changing your diet will speed up your metabolism and sticking to that lifestyle can make it permanent.

GREEN VEGGIES + lots of aqua = faster metabolism .. something most americans get 1 serving of every few days. and no corn doesn't count as a green veggie. try eating 6 servings of green veggies and 1+ gallon of water a day for the next week while avoiding all junk food/sugars/bad fats.. and then come back here and tell me i am wrong.

i really hope what i'm saying is making sense to you.
 
So earlier you said you dont have time to get your body in shape before cycling. My question is why dont you have time? Did you get a critical diagnosis from your doc? If you are not planning on dying soon and you choose to live this lifestyle, then you need to do it right. Its been said before and I will say it again this is a marathon not a sprint. From you stats, your lean muscle is insufficient for steroid use. You only have about 130-140 lbs of muscle. I would take a couple years and gain some muscle. If you gain 12-15lbs of mucle a year, in 3 years you will be ready to juice. That will put you close to 180 lbs of mucle. This will give you time to drop the fat as well. Using all these different drugs isnt the answer. I know this isnt what you wanna hear but its true. The reality is if you cant stay below 20% body fat on your own, then you wont be successful on juice. Your issues are with your training and diet. This is what you need to fix.

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LIKE I SAID I HAD TO JOIN THE f***** ARMY ITS NOT OPTIONAL HERE AND THE F*** COMMANDERS MADE US DO CARDIO ON BREAD AND BUTTER SO I LOST MY SHAPE WHO SAID IM GONNA LEAVE TRAINING.DO U HAVE SOME SORT OF F*** ABILITY TO TELL MY FUTURE DUDE? . WHAT IS IT WITH YOU GUYS?

WTF dude you come here asking for help and you don't like the answer u are getting so you throw a little bitch fit. Stop being lazy and put some work into first you could drop 20 pounds quick and easy with out juice and be set for the summer.
 
So earlier you said you dont have time to get your body in shape before cycling. My question is why dont you have time? Did you get a critical diagnosis from your doc? If you are not planning on dying soon and you choose to live this lifestyle, then you need to do it right. Its been said before and I will say it again this is a marathon not a sprint. From you stats, your lean muscle is insufficient for steroid use. You only have about 130-140 lbs of muscle. I would take a couple years and gain some muscle. If you gain 12-15lbs of mucle a year, in 3 years you will be ready to juice. That will put you close to 180 lbs of mucle. This will give you time to drop the fat as well. Using all these different drugs isnt the answer. I know this isnt what you wanna hear but its true. The reality is if you cant stay below 20% body fat on your own, then you wont be successful on juice. Your issues are with your training and diet. This is what you need to fix.

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during the 9 months ive been off my diet was like %50"oil" 40%bread+rice 10%chicken . we fed on oil and bread for breakfast then they would take us for 2 hours exercise sessions i lost more than imaginable and i hate my body now ive been under20% without juice or even cardio only on diet.i dont want to loose what little muscle is left that zillion oil and bread calorie brought me a lot of fat but at least i kept a bit of my muscle now it really hurts to loose what little is left under that fat.
just trying to get back in shape so i can have motivation to keep on training im living a hard life nowadays.
and about the dying thing you mentioned earlier .i guess there's going to be a war between our governments and im a soldier now(joining is not optional here) i would like to die fit.
 
WTF dude you come here asking for help and you don't like the answer u are getting so you throw a little bitch fit. Stop being lazy and put some work into first you could drop 20 pounds quick and easy with out juice and be set for the summer.

dude im not living in america. summer is arriving in a month here
on what kind of diet can i loose 20 pounds and not"die" in a month let alone keeping muscle and im not sure if the army will let me stay on my home city for how long so i can keep on training at a gym and eat clean
 
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