3 questions (depression, IP and 3 years)

[JV007]

Hello group,

I am 35 years old, 5' 11", 190 lbs, ~10% BF and am interested in doing my 2nd cycle. I had really good success with Sust and Deca about 3 years ago and will probably do the same cycle again.

1) Before I begin I want to ask the forum about the anti-depressants (Cymbalta, Clonazepam and Trazadone) I have been taking for the past year. I have researched the posts and am not able to find anyone that has ever had any trouble with a 12 week cycle while on anti-depressants. Any thoughts or precautions would be appreciated.

2) I used a source that my friend recommended (I* from China) and, as mentioned, was happy with the results. I know that a lot of crazy things come out of China (i.e, Bird Flu) but was willing to take the risk. However, after reading (between the lines) some posts it appears that they do not offer very good gear. I'm not asking for a source but what is the general opinion of this source? It sounds like there is another international shipper that is price competitive and offers better gear?

3) I have some leftover pills (Clomid, Nolva) and Sust from about a year and a half ago (when I thought I would start my second cycle). It has been stored in my safe so, with the exception of two moves, it has stayed cool and dry. Would it have lost potency or gone bad or should I be OK to use the old stuff first? Once again, thank you for your input.

JV

 

[sparetire]

Well, most anti-depressants won't effect your cycle at all, but be aware that being on steroids will elevate your moods more positively or negatively depending on the point in your cycle. For instance, if you're in mid-cycle and rock 'n'rollin with the weights, the testosterone is elivated - you're gonna be in one hell of a great mood and horny on top of it. Now, with that being said, during pct, the first few weeks aren't a big problem, but once your test levels begin to drop hard, depending on how severe your natural depression usually is, might make it worse on you, so watch out for that.

A lot of ssri's, anti-d's will cause a lot of people to gain weight and this weight is very hard to lose - and that's depressing in itself. My old, lame doctor decided to put me on lexapro (anti-d) along time ago for attention deficit (instead of ridlin, etc) and not only did it help a little with that (and give me headaches and lose my boner) but I gained 10 pounds that I couldn't get rid of no matter how hard or extreme I worked out, and on top of it, I wasn't even using gear at that time. So, for me, I won't ever touch anti-d's ever again because 1 , I don't need them, 2, the weight gain makes me depressed! haha. but i digress...If you need them, of course, take them..you'll be fine..

as far as your clomid/nolva is concerned, it should still be good. They'll last up to several years. Although, some people get extremely depressed or moody using clomid (makes me a moody bitch and I HATE IT! ) so using nolva would be a better choice anyhow. but yes, they are good.

As far as your gear from china source is concerned, most powders come from China to begin with and as far as the quality, it can be safer, safe as, or worse than anything produced anywhere else - here in someone's lab or a professional company. I would personally buy domestic - it's cheaper and safer - lowers the risk of getting caught by LE. There's no reason in this day and age for anyone to order overseas or drive across the border when you can save hundreds buying it in your own backyard..

Good luck..

 

[JV007]

Thank you for the response; you've confirmed mos of what I already suspected.

JV

 

[holy ghost]

i take an ativan or xanax or lauratab whenever im way juiced out and feel like tearin the world about once a week

stay away from anti ds and pain meds
they will inhibit your gains

 

[advanced-stealth]

Nice post sparetire.

 

[enacer420nj]

Well, most anti-depressants won't effect your cycle at all, but be aware that being on steroids will elevate your moods more positively or negatively depending on the point in your cycle. For instance, if you're in mid-cycle and rock 'n'rollin with the weights, the testosterone is elivated - you're gonna be in one hell of a great mood and horny on top of it. Now, with that being said, during PCT - post cycle therapy - , the first few weeks aren't a big problem, but once your test levels begin to drop hard, depending on how severe your natural depression usually is, might make it worse on you, so watch out for that.

A lot of ssri's, anti-d's will cause a lot of people to gain weight and this weight is very hard to lose - and that's depressing in itself. My old, lame doctor decided to put me on lexapro (anti-d) along time ago for attention deficit (instead of ridlin, etc) and not only did it help a little with that (and give me headaches and lose my boner) but I gained 10 pounds that I couldn't get rid of no matter how hard or extreme I worked out, and on top of it, I wasn't even using gear at that time. So, for me, I won't ever touch anti-d's ever again because 1 , I don't need them, 2, the weight gain makes me depressed! haha. but i digress...If you need them, of course, take them..you'll be fine..

as far as your clomid/Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - is concerned, it should still be good. They'll last up to several years. Although, some people get extremely depressed or moody using clomid (makes me a moody bitch and I HATE IT! ) so using Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - would be a better choice anyhow. but yes, they are good.

As far as your gear from china source is concerned, most powders come from China to begin with and as far as the quality, it can be safer, safe as, or worse than anything produced anywhere else - here in someone's lab or a professional company. I would personally buy domestic - it's cheaper and safer - lowers the risk of getting caught by LE. There's no reason in this day and age for anyone to order overseas or drive across the border when you can save hundreds buying it in your own backyard..

Good luck..

Good post bro, alot of good points...I agree with you abou the anti-d's I wont touch them again either, makes me feel like I dont know who i am anymore.

 

[sparetire]

i take an ativan or xanax or lauratab whenever im way juiced out and feel like tearin the world about once a week

stay away from anti ds and pain meds
they will inhibit your gains

who's LauraTab? hahah..

i'm guessing you meant lortab..hehe.

If you are in moderate pain, check out Tramadol in the generic form. It has a lot of anti-depressant qualities but without all of the normal anti-d side effects. Used in low amounts, can really help out with your pain and depression without using a normal anti-d. I have been using it for the past 2 months and it's pretty nice..

 

[vne220]

Good post. That would probably explain my weight gain over the last five years. I was crack ass skinny when I was 35 - 5'10, 160lbs. I could eat with impunity. I am now 41 and 202 lbs, but I also have more muscle mass, and this was before using gear. I find it harder than hell to lose the fat, but interstingley enough, I started taking SSRI's about 5 years ago which may explain the weight gain.

As some one posted earlier, I didn't get this way in 6 months. It will take continued hard work and diligence on my part. Although I weigh more, I know what I am doing is working. Before starting on gear, I was 195lbs, 36" waist. I am now 202lbs with a 34" waist. I give it another year. Even if I never lose all of it, the by product is that I have learned to live and eat healthier.

Thanks all for the good advice

 

[mobro]

how can you come off of a med like adderal for ADD? it can be very addictive.

 

[sparetire]

i'm guessing you taper off of it. If you are getting through your doctor, you should talk to him/her about it, but if you are taking it w/o care of a doc, then you might want to google it. g/l