3 key determinates for keeping "gains"

[Nutrient-Nut]

There are three key determinants of whether you keep a good portion of your "gains" after the cessation of a cycle. One is the degree of inhibition of your endogenous Testosterone production or effect on the HPTA. Two is the amount of water retention or edema caused by the drug during usage, and three is — this one being a little more on the "iffy" side — whether it causes simple hypertrophy of skeletal muscle or the activation of satellite cells, leading to the formation of new muscle fibers. This last one isn't totally solid, but there's evidence supporting it.(1,2)

In any event, here are some sample cycles that are relatively available, safe and effective:

500 mg/week any Testosterone ester combined with 50 mg/day stanozolol (Winstrol)

500 mg/week nandrolone (Deca) combined with 500 mg/week of any Testosterone ester

500 mg/week methenolone (Primobolan) with 50 mg/day stanozolol (Winstrol) or methandrostenolone (D-bol)

Each one of these (with the exception of nandrolone) aren't very suppressive in terms of allowing endogenous testosterone production to return. These steroids won't cause much water retention as well, and lastly, with the nandrolone and Testosterone stack, you're theoretically increasing IGF-1 levels to a very high level, which in theory would lead to satellite cell activation, forming "new muscle."

As far as length goes, I feel 5-6 weeks is totally fine. Whatever slight side effects you'd see at 3 weeks would be the same as those you'd encounter after 5-6 weeks, so there's no point in only doing a 2 or 3 week cycle.

(Excerpt from Cy Willson - Testosterone Mag. Issue 195)
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[swampmoose]

yeah get your nuts going but eat! eat! eat! train and eat!

 

[CanadianBro]

Another detrimental factor that can lead to loss of muscle tissue is continuing to train with the exact same intensty and volume while on anabolics. This can have a very catabolic effect and lead to even more tissue loss.

 

[galaxy]

I dont know? I have to say if your shut down, your shut down. Ive take mega doses and all I really lose is water. I havent even been to gym but a couple times in past three months due to personal reasons and Im still big. About 225-230lbs. Only place I lost size was legs. Did measure my arms and Ive lost about 11/2, but its not noticeable. In fact when I did go to gym a few weeks ago and took shirt off my friend thought I looked bigger. Probable because I didnt have big test belly and waist was smaller creating a better v taper. As long as one runs hcg/clomid/nolva post cycle I think youll be fine. SOme may have to run it longer than others.Just my 2cc's..............galaxy