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nitlyan

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2thick "Considering that only .000000000000000000000000000001% of Arabs that fly actually hijack an airplane, it would be a racist tool.

And you being a white male would know absolutely nothing about racism or prejudice, so you would never know what it feels like."

Please read about our past 2thick and stop with the ignorance.

In the second half of the fourteenth century the english kingdom had to pay a high tribute to the pope, which means that finally the peasants, the simple peasants really had to work and pay for the pope. But the lords also had an interest in getting rid of this burden, because they had to pass part of the money they had pressed out of the peasants to someone else. An Oxford professor, John Wyclif(1324-1384), said clearly what everybody thought. In 1360, Wyclif declared that the first Christians had lived in devote poverty. He than attacked the priests of the catholic church because of their rich life, concluding, that everybody within the church should live as modestly as the first Christians.
Because of the hundred years war most of the lords were occupied robbing Frances treasures (the victory of Crecy in Northern France literally changed the whole life in England). But then the war turned in favor of the french army and in 1374 a truce was concluded and the english lords had to satisfy their needs by increasing the pressure on their own population, the workers and peasants in England. By doing so they aggravated a situation of discontent. The Black Death had ravaged England in 1348/49 and nearly half of the population had died with the consequence that working people were rare and wages high. The Government issued laws aiming to reduce wages at their level before the plague and the lords, unsuccessful in the war, applied their privileges strictly. Especially the crown was in need of money to continue the war against France. The unpopular levy of 1377, a proportionate poll tax on every adult, was followed by the graduated tax on moveable property of 1379, the latter a failure that resulted in the replacement of the Chancellor, Richard Scrope. In 1380, Parliament allowed the king, through his new Chancellor, Simon Sudbury, Archbishop of Canterbury, to assess a flat tax of three groats (one shilling) on every man and woman over the age of fifteen. This was more as the lower classes could pay, but tax collectors enforced the application, often diverting the result to their personal fortune: "The kyng therof had smalle." The rallying-point for the rebellion was the poll tax of 1380-81, a tax that, as an anonymous poet said, "has tenet us alle." This was the third poll tax, and it was enforced by commissions of inquiry, which investigated whether all persons were complying with the tax.

The situation of the peasants became insupportable and the english peasants uprising began. It had been prepared and guided mainly by the preachers John Ball and Jack Straw, whereas the peasants in Kent were led by Wat Tyler.

if you would like to read more about this uprising...

http://www.felix2.f2s.com/english/balle.html
 
I'll bump this for 2thick.
 
just because he's white doesn't mean he hasn't experienced racism. i'm a white person and i have experienced racism. i'm a minority in hawaii, and if you think they don't discriminate on me becaues i'm white you're ignorant. i get called out at least once a month by people who hate white people. i've had hawaiians who were fighting for soverignty try to spit on me. so don't say that white people don't experience racism.
 
wesdog said:
just because he's white doesn't mean he hasn't experienced racism. i'm a white person and i have experienced racism. i'm a minority in hawaii, and if you think they don't discriminate on me becaues i'm white you're ignorant. i get called out at least once a month by people who hate white people. i've had hawaiians who were fighting for soverignty try to spit on me. so don't say that white people don't experience racism.

There are always exceptions to the rule, but it doesn't change the truth for the other 99.9%.
 
NITYLYAN

ALTHOUGH I DONT LIKE YOU, I HAVE TO AGREE, SOMEWHAT, WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.

2THICK IS NOT IGNORANT BUT MOST OF HIS VIEWS ARE JUST TOTALLY OFF THE WALL!!!

KAYNE
 
With all the minorities out there, the white male is itself a minority in comparison.

As soon as the word racism pops up... who is to blame? White men. Hate crimes.... Guess who? White men.

If a black man kills a white man... it's murder.... found in a small column in the paper.

If a white man kills a black man... it's a hate crime, and makes headlines.

Yes... we are discriminated against, and judged just as hard, if not harder than any other race.

Racism sucks. Period. But I've been a victim of it. I thought my brother and I were going to get stabbed to death, because 4 black men with knives approached us... the one up front said "You ever been cut before, white boy?" I will never forget those words. "You think you're better than me, white boy? Fuck you, I'll cut your racist ass."

So you tell me... a guy going to stab me because I'm white, still calls me a racist, even though he's never met me.

So don't say a white male will never know what it feels like. We are discriminated against bigtime. They just don't call it racism when it's done to us. They say people are revolting against oppression.
 
Big Brother Val said:

Yes... we are discriminated against, and judged just as hard, if not harder than any other race.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you tell me... a guy going to stab me because I'm white, still calls me a racist, even though he's never met me.


Your experience is certainly nothing to belittle, but it is very rare.
 
nitlyan said:
2thick "Considering that only .000000000000000000000000000001% of Arabs that fly actually hijack an airplane, it would be a racist tool.

And you being a white male would know absolutely nothing about racism or prejudice, so you would never know what it feels like."

Please read about our past 2thick and stop with the ignorance.

In the second half of the fourteenth century the english kingdom...

I have read through your little history lesson and I see nothing that has anything to do with white people being discriminated against. It is all about class discrimination and that is a whole different subject.

In short, what are you trying to say? You are barely coherent with your post.
 
Funny that whites are the majority, and we are complaining about discrimination. Reality Check needed.
 
You misinterpreted my comment 2Thick....I'm simply saying that its funny that whites complain about reverse discrimination.

The majority should complain about discrimination against minorities. If not, nothing will ever change.
 
RyanH said:
You misinterpreted my comment 2Thick....I'm simply saying that its funny that whites complain about reverse discrimination.

The majority should complain about discrimination against minorities. If not, nothing will ever change.

LOL... I was beginning to wonder (considering your pro-Bush stance lately).
 
hey ryan, i please shut your mouth. i'm not saying that i do, but you don't know what 2thick has been through, just like you don't know what i've been through. just like i posted earlier, i have been discriminated against and i am white. if you've never lived in hawaii, than you need to shut your trap. a lot of people here hate white people because we took over their island chain. you don't know shit so please do not talk out of experience that you don't have!
 
wesdog said:
hey ryan, i please shut your mouth. i'm not saying that i do, but you don't know what 2thick has been through, just like you don't know what i've been through. just like i posted earlier, i have been discriminated against and i am white. if you've never lived in hawaii, than you need to shut your trap. a lot of people here hate white people because we took over their island chain. you don't know shit so please do not talk out of experience that you don't have!

Are you talking to RyanH or me?
 
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Big Brother Val said:


If a black man kills a white man... it's murder.... found in a small column in the paper.

If a white man kills a black man... it's a hate crime, and makes headlines.


Totally disagree with half that statement. I live by Washington DC, a place that used to be the "Murder Capital of the World." When ever a white (very rare over here) is killed by a black IT IS ALL OVER THE NEWSPAPERS. You know why blacks don't kill whites around here? BECAUSE THEY'LL GET CAUGHT! Blacks kill blacks all the time in DC, but you don't hear shit about people getting caught and it's just a passing story on the news.

However I agree about whites killing blacks and how that gets all over the newspaper.

I can add my 2 cents about discrimination. Since I'm half middle eastern half white I get my fair share of racism. Since it's not clear to strangers what race I am I've been called, nigger, spic, honkey, and sand nigger.

Rascism is not only limited to white folks, I've met racists of all colors and ethnicities.
 
no but he was saying that whites complain about discrimination when they're the majority. it sounds like he thinks that whites are the majority throughout the united states when that's not necessarily true. i've been the majority, because i used to live in St. Louis, and i've been the minority, so i see both worlds.
 
wesdog said:
no but he was saying that whites complain about discrimination when they're the majority. it sounds like he thinks that whites are the majority throughout the united states when that's not necessarily true. i've been the majority, because i used to live in St. Louis, and i've been the minority, so i see both worlds.

In defense of RyanH's line of thought, I will say that in some places whites be the minority but they still hold the majority of the power so some resentment is to be expected.
 
Every American President has been white.

8 out of 9 United States Supreme Court Justice are white.

100 out of 100 United States Senators are white.

The majority of the House of Representatives is white.

Most corporate C.E.Os are white.

THUS, us WHITES HAVE SO MUCH TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.

Ryan
 
You know what...I am sick and tired of people saying that just because we are "white males" we don't know what racism is!! That is such bullshit! I have met and seen so many people of other races that are so much more racist then I have ever thought of being.
Bottom line, everyone has at least some sort of prejudice and, those of you who say you don't are not fooling anyone. In fact those that say they don't are even worse. They are the ones that will be cool to you in your face and then call you a white boy or a cracker, when you turn your back.

Everyone knows what it means to be discriminated against in some form.
 
bstone said:

Bottom line, everyone has at least some sort of prejudice and, those of you who say you don't are not fooling anyone. In fact those that say they don't are even worse.


Bump on that.

Anyone ever heard the name Reginald (sp) Denny? Ask him about racism. That's if he can talk. (for those of you who don't know he's a white guy who was at the wrong place at the wrong time during the LA riots and nearly got beaten to death by a mob of black, and it was black folks who saved him too).

There is not one ethnicity that is incapable of racism.
 
Can somebody help me out?

It sounds like this thread is about discrimination.
Are there truly people out there saying that because white males are a
majority then discrimination against them can't exist?

Say it ain't so, Ryan

Ever hear of affirmative action?
Every apply to med school or residencies in Obstetrics and Gynecology?

Discrimination comes in all shapes and sizes and it is wrong. I hope
we can all agree on that.
 
thebabydoc said:
Can somebody help me out?

It sounds like this thread is about discrimination.
Are there truly people out there saying that because white males are a
majority then discrimination against them can't exist?

Say it ain't so, Ryan

Ever hear of affirmative action?
Every apply to med school or residencies in Obstetrics and Gynecology?

Discrimination comes in all shapes and sizes and it is wrong. I hope
we can all agree on that.


You have half of the argument. I am simply stating that the average white male would know the least about discrimination so they should stop belittling the discrimination levied against visible minorities and women.
 
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Of course I do. Gonna let you have the fun on this one though. I'll get you, and your little dog, on the next one. Be good.
 
2Thick said:
I don't think you want me to start listing similar crimes committed against visible minorities because there wouldn't be enough bandwidth on Elitefitess.


please list, and please make the list post 1964.
 
HEY RYAN, LET ME GIVE YOU AN

example of reverse discrimination.
I'm in school, witah friend of mine, he is as whit as I am, except when he was young and his mom split w/ dad, remarried a chinaman, named WOO, ok, college comes we both score the same on testing, he gets a scholarship cuz he is listed as a minority? WTF??
Later, I'm in contsruction, I bid a State Job, a Vietnamese contractor bids more and gets the job because the government allows a 15% bidders bond for minorities. Thas our government taking away work from me, a white boy with family tree dating back to pre-revoluntary war era, and giving to an VC who is here on Visa and barely speaks english? WTF? hows that for an example. want another, where are the white music awards? where si the white TV networrk?. COuld you imagine a white comdeian talking trash about blacks? hell no, Blacks can slam whites though and call it humor... need any more?
 
So what would you guys call it if the white man can't have his own magazine?

Black Men magazine is all over here. Why isn't there a "White Men" magazine? Why can't we have our own comedy show on HBO? Why is it that when blacks insult whites on TV, it's comedy... yet whites can't ever insult blacks, because it's racism... but blacks can insult blacks?

Where's the United Caucasion College Fund?

Sure... with the KKK and all of that other shit... it's totally fucked up. And maybe we'll never know what it's like to go through what they went through. No one ever should. That was sickening.

I'm against racism in ever form. I'm just trying to say, that being a white male is actually difficult in some aspects. Who cares if the Senators are white? Am I a Senator? No. So what relevance is that?

EVERYONE votes for their leaders. Not just white people.

So because a majority of pro football players are black... that's racism somehow? Of course not.

I'm not defending anything. Racism is bullshit in every form.

And I don't think 2Thick is ignorant, which was the original topic of this post.
 
Also... what do you call it when a friend of mine got a grant to college, because he's a minority, and I did not get the SAME GRANT? The guy makes more money than me, but I didn't qualify because of my income.

Was that discrimination?

Oh wait. Nope. I'm white.

Just means I have more opportunities... so I don't deserve the help.
 
To say that white males don't experience racist behavours against them is pucky. Try living in SoCal. The mexicans hate you, the blacks don't like you and the Viet Namese don't want to do business with you, all the Orentails stores signs are written in their Naitve language, and you are clearly not welcome in their stores.

So much for your edjucated opinion and experience. 2thick is a MOD and though I don't bow and scape before them I know better then to tell one of them that they are ignorant. I hope you get that one point. He's intitled to his opinion and has the right to express it just like any other AMERICAN with out being rediculed for it. Every one has differing points of view. It is what makes this country great. Debate is welcome, redicule is not. We flame each other sometimes but we are a family here, and we may argue with each other but we're still a people with some common beliefs. THANK GOD FOR THAT!!!!
 
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momwarndu said:
. Thas our government taking away work from me, a white boy with family tree dating back to pre-revoluntary war era, and giving to an VC who is here on Visa and barely speaks english? WTF?

This Vietnamese guy was a "VC"???? How could you tell? Was it the black pajamas? Or was it the AK-47?
 
This is a repost of a post from me

all kidding aside. we whp have been to the board awhile know that 2Thick knows his shit. and I for one is happy he is on board. and i see alot of newbies and stuff giving him shit. if you got sumthing to say to a person, do it via pm's or email. dont try to win over people by airing it on the board...
 
Criminologists report that most people think a "hate crime" is one committed by a white against a black. But the vast majority of violent interracial crimes are committed by blacks against whites, according to data in a report from the New Century Foundation.

Some 1.7 million violent crimes involving both blacks and whites are committed annually.

But in 1997, only 4,105 of those were deemed "hate crimes" under the Hate Crimes Statistics Act of 1990.

Black-on-white crimes were almost nine times as frequent as white-on-black crimes.

The Justice Department has reported that in 1994 blacks committed 1,140,670 violent crimes against whites -- compared to 135,360 violent crimes committed by whites against blacks.
"It's no news to anybody who has pursued the differences of race and crime," comments National Center for Policy Analysis criminal statistics expert Morgan Reynolds, "but it's politically incorrect" -- adding that most white scholars ignore the implications.

The study took note of the fact that blacks constitute a much smaller proportion of the U.S. population than whites. When that is factored in, the average black was "56 times more likely to commit criminal violence against a white than was a white to commit criminal violence against a black."

Source: Robert Stacy McCain, "'Hate Crimes' Not Big Problem in Race Relations, Study Finds," Washington Times, June 1, 1999


http://www.ncpa.org/pi/crime/pd060199c.html
 
Weapon X said:
Criminologists report that most people think a "hate crime" is one committed by a white against a black. But the vast majority of violent interracial crimes are committed by blacks against whites, according to data in a report from the New Century Foundation.

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This is hardly a credible source. They are a far right, conservative group that is clearly biased in their views. It would be the same as me posting up sociological studies done at universities showing the exact opposite stats. You would not accept it at face value due to the biases that liberal universities take into the field with them
 
And you being a white male would know absolutely nothing about racism or prejudice, so you would never know what it feels like."

Boy! Your ass better call somebody! White men are subject to racism and prejudice daily!!

Ask about test scoring at your local U.S. Postal service.

Let's see a white male walk down Polk or Kiest in Oak Cliff by himself day or night. He would not enjoy the stroll!!
 
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Checkmatebloated said:


Boy! Your ass better call somebody! White men are subject to racism and prejudice daily!!

Who do I call, Big-Poppa??

Ask about test scoring at your local U.S. Postal service.

I would hope that the best person would get the job. But on the other hand, discrimination has been used for hundreds of years to keep minorities out of such jobs. This is just a way of forcing change quicker.

Let's see a white male walk down Polk or Kiest in Oak Cliff by himself day or night. He would not enjoy the stroll!!

That is a non-issue because ANYONE walking down those streets is in danger...not just whites.
 
ONe of the things I like about statistics is if you have the numbers you can prove it for yourself. And since most of those numbers can be verified from the DOJ, FBI and so forth, I believe them to be fairly representative. Also, being a cop helps, in that Igot to see first hand what those numbers are.

Not to mention a black lawyer, also, was able to show those same statistics.


Also, 2thick is far from ignorant. A shit pot stirrer? Yes, But then he likes deca for breakfast too!.
 
NATUTRE BOY

How Did i know she he was "VC"? it wasnt the ak-47, every one carries those thes days. I think the big clue was his daughter sayin.. "oh me sooo horney..me luv you long time GI"

i thin that was it!! LOL
 
<-----so white, im clear!!

but thats just cause i need a tan.

i'll admit, living in socal whites are the minority.....BUT.....still the protected in most cases. not to say a cracka is safe walking through the hood. i know i had to scooch down a bit when driving home late at night, and i LIVED THERE. hehe. but in this country i wouldnt say that the average white person, coming into a situation has it that tough.

and 2thick is far from ignorant. im sure his experiences alone, not to mention his education puts him out of the running for living in a trailer park, appearing on cops wearing a wife beater fighting with his brother who just lost an ear in their fight. hehe. hows that for a stereotype.

btw....shut up. i lived in a trailer park as a child. i dont want to hear any flack about the trailer park jokes. plus some of the best pussy is brought up there. LOL!

alright im done talking shit.
 
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momwarndu said:
How Did i know she he was "VC"? it wasnt the ak-47, every one carries those thes days. I think the big clue was his daughter sayin.. "oh me sooo horney..me luv you long time GI"

i thin that was it!! LOL

Do you have her phone number?
 
Some things we think may be rare, may not be rare at all!

Through the 50s-60s- and 70s women have been raped on a major scale but it was never talked about and considered rare. But the truth is it was happening on a daily basis. It was one of those things that no one wanted to talk about.
 
nitlyan said:
2thick "Considering that only .000000000000000000000000000001% of Arabs that fly actually hijack an airplane, it would be a racist tool.
Yeah, but the percentage of crazy highjacking terrorists that fly jets into buildings is 100% ARAB. Fuck tolerance when it comes to national security, I wouldn't allow not one single more visa to be granted to someone from an Arabic country to enter the US and would be looking to kick a whole fucking lot of them out of the country. Tolerance didn't work it's time to be intelligent and play hardball with these fuckers.
 
ok, about the HOOKERS!! Before any one starts to bash and say "hey, you need a hooker to get laid" NO, I dont think people pay a hooker to bang them, you pay a hooker to leave and leave you alone after!!
 
Actually think about that

I am a white male, from North America from a middle class
family

so 90% of that world hates me!!!!

;)
 
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