2nd Cycle Help

[steelmass]

I am mid 20s and have already had much help around here to get my diet and training spot on in my first cycle... I did 250 sust/300 deca a week for 10 weeks and gained 29 pounds at the high end... lost some water and the rest and 4 months later I am 20 pounds heavier and down 3% body fat to 12% at around 210 (6 months total). My question is if I want to gain another 20lbs lean body mass, how much gear would I have to take. I am planning on:

150 Prop EOD Week 1-10
40mg Tbol Week 1-3.5
50mg Winny depot ED Week 9-12
HCG 1000 IU ED Week 12
Nolvadex 20mg Week 12-15

Basically I want to know if this is too much for a 2nd cycle? It would put me right where I want to be at 230 and then I want to shred down to 220 8%.. Which I will be very happy at staying...


PS How much does Prop really hurt? I have decent sized quads and have done quad injections so I was thinking about alternating 3 head of quad, delt, and glute... good idea?

 

[Throw2Far]

WTF bro... you been reading my mind? I have been thinking of veeeeery similar cycle... anyways would be interested to hear opinions on cycle...

 

[sweed]

why not a test/deca/dbol cycle , it would def yeild the gains your looking for after pct and it would me much cheaper than a prop/winny/tbol cycle.
also a lot less sticking.
btw prop at 150 eod is about 600 mgs test/week. going from 250 to 600 is a big jump.

 

[ruggermu]

Just a thought but I would switch over to Test E, for less pokes. You caould do prop weeks 1-4 or something but then the test E will have kicked in. That's just to make it easier on you Bro, Good Luck. I'm still anxious to here results everytime someone mentions TBol so keep us posted.

 

[steelmass]

Well what is the difference in water bloat between prop and enan? I was trying to keep bloat to a minimum because it would not be professional to blow up like a baloon in my field of work. If its a 1-2 lbs of water I can deal but 5-6 is crazy...

Sweed what kind of jump to you suggest?

What kind of Test E/Deca/Dbol cycle? Want 20 lbs lbm (if fat comes i can always burn it off) and don't want insane water retention? If i did Test E/Deca/Dbol and arimidex .25 ED would it hurt my gains?

 

[steelmass]

repost oops

 

[sweed]

well if u dont want to blow up then use tbol instead of dbol. test E is fine for bloat, if concerned u can take some adex ed or eod.
test at 400 and deca at 300 would be good for your 2nd. could start with tbol... or just end with winny. just a suggestion