2nd Cycle-Fina/Test/EQ or Var/Creatine?

[DiamondCutCows]

Lets figure this one out. Im finishing up my first cycle, went from 211 14% to 236 14% was on:
Test Enan 500mg x 10
Dbol 25mg/d x 4
PCT is clomid

I want to "clean bulk." Really looking for the body transform, thats why Im thinking Tren. Would want to end up around 240 and drop 4% bf if I go var.
So who thinks what???

 

[tzan]

Are you planning on taking time off when your done with the test/dbol cycle? If you want to solidify your gains and maybe drop a little bf, you may want to look into doing a bridge with the var.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Are you planning on taking time off when your done with the test/dbol cycle? If you want to solidify your gains and maybe drop a little bf, you may want to look into doing a bridge with the var.

Nah, no bridge for me; Not yet. Want to see how I recover from my first. I will be wating about 12-14 weeks from last shot of Test.

Im thinking either:
20-30mgs day Var x 6-8 weeks or
500mg Test 1-10
400mg EQ 1-10
200mg Slow Tren 1-6 or 4-10 or 6-12

HELP!!!! Im very meticuluous, want to be sure MANY weeks ahead of time

 

[tzan]

Glad to see your taking time off. When I first read your post, I thought you were going to run back to back cycles. If it was me, and only my second cycle, I would go with your second choice minus the tren. You can deffiantly acheive a good clean bulk cycle while using just test/eq.

500mg Test wks 1-10
400mg EQ wks 1-12

 

[DiamondCutCows]

my major issue right now is I feel I dont look like I even lift, even though @ 230+ and only 5'9 its obvious I do. Muscle Dysphormia @ work. I really want a dramatic trasform unless I've already had one I cant see...

 

[tzan]

my major issue right now is I feel I dont look like I even lift, even though @ 230+ and only 5'9 its obvious I do. Muscle Dysphormia @ work. I really want a dramatic trasform unless I've already had one I cant see...

Easy bro. You said it "muscle dysphormia". If you've already gained 25lbs like you said then guess what, you have just had a pretty good transformation. Just focus on maintaing as much of that as you can. If you continue to work hard over time you will keep transforming. I know how hard it's to notice changes on yourself. I have a serious problem about constantly checking my physique out in mirrors, so I neevr see any changes from day to day. However, if I take a pic and then take another one 6 months later I can see how all the hard work payed off. It takes patience and time in this game.

 

[JoBu]

If you want to see a big improvement drop that 14% down below 10% BF. Don't get too hung up on your weight and size...dropping 8-10lbs of fat will give you much better definition and you'll look more like you workout. I'd suggest doing a proper recovery from this cycle for 8 weeks and then going into a low-carb diet. I dropped 15lbs in 4 weeks and I swear I look bigger and more muscular now at 175 then before at 190. Once you get down around 10% then go into another cycle...var and test would be nice for 8 weeks...eat clean and big and you'll put on some quality lean mass and keep you BF where it is or maybe drop 1-2%.

Good luck and keep us posted.

JoBu

my major issue right now is I feel I dont look like I even lift, even though @ 230+ and only 5'9 its obvious I do. Muscle Dysphormia @ work. I really want a dramatic trasform unless I've already had one I cant see...