2nd Cycle Advise. Pls give your thoughts / advice.

[Sir Studly]

Hi All,

I am 29 yrs, 6'2", 203 pounds (probably 206 by now). BF is about 17%. I am presently on an 8 week cycle (my first) of Deca 300mg / Sust 375mg.

I have been doing a lot of research but I need some advice from you guys that have the knowledge and experience.

My BF% is a little higher than I would like (I will do some major cutting after 2nd cycle), but I have not obtained that 'THICK' look that I am after. My shoulders & traps have bulked extremely well, and my back has got thicker, but not enough overall thickness.

I am going to start my 2nd bulking cycle about 9-10 weeks after the end of this one, but I want some advice on what I should take. Please bear in mind that I want to try and keep the sides as low as possible. Also, this is only going to be my 2nd cycle, so I should respond well to medium doses. I was thinking of the following:

Wk 1-5 D-bol 25mg ED
Wk 1-8 Deca 400mg
Wk 1-8 Sust 500mg (Nolva & Clomid as normal)

Should I take some winny to assist with the lowering of the BF% ? What other supplements (and doses) should I take with this cycle - Milk Thistle, Saw Palmetto.......?

 

[Bulldog_10]

That's the best cutting cycle you could come up with? Come on bro! It's the same cycle you're on now, with one more bulking agent!

Try this out:

Test..........400mg/wk.........1-10
EQ............400mg/wk.........1-10
D-bol........25mg/ED............1-4
Winny.......50mg/ED............7-12
Clomid...............................13-15
Armidex---.25mg/ED...........1-15

You could try fina in place of the winny, but I wouldn't!

Tell me what ya think...

 

[Bulldog_10]

Get some ALA at 600mg/ED throughout the cycle, and maybe some milk thistle. Drink plenty of water also.

 

[Sir Studly]

Bulldog, I'm not trying to cut. I want the 2nd cycle to be a bulking cycle as well. I will look at cutting after the 2nd cycle. Maybe go onto a 3rd cycle for cutting. Please let me know if my cycle above would be a good (medium dosage) cycle to bulk and get thicker?

Thanks mate.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Bulldog, I'm not trying to cut. I want the 2nd cycle to be a bulking cycle as well. I will look at cutting after the 2nd cycle. Maybe go onto a 3rd cycle for cutting. Please let me know if my cycle above would be a good (medium dosage) cycle to bulk and get thicker?

Thanks mate.

Ooooooooh. My bad...I thought you wanted to cut on this cycle. Sorry bro.

yeah..that should be a good cycle. I'd throw in the winny.

Test..............500mg/wk.............1-10
Deca.............40mmg/wk............1-10
D-bol............25mg/ED................1-4
Winny..........50mg/ED................7-12
Clomid.......................................13-15

 

[Sir Studly]

Hey Bulldog, I see you say I should use the dbol for 4 weeks, not 5. What is your reasoning on this?

 

[Bulldog_10]

Well, you know d-bol is harsh on the liver (17-aa) and so is winny. So 4 weeks is long enough to kick start the cycle, until the test/deca kicks. this also gives the liver a break between the winny and the d-bol.

 

[Sir Studly]

Thanks Bulldog.