2nd cycle advice needed please.

[drwoody]

First off I'd like to introduce myself back to the board.I used this board back from 99-01 under the handle Harleyguy.Thanks to all those you helped me back then.

Ok this will be my second cycle.First one was 6 years ago at the age of 32.It was mild.

400mg primo a week for 10 weeks
200 mg deca a week for 10 weeks
50 mg winny eod for last 6 weeks
clomid therapy.

The results were amazing,no sides,10 lbs of hard lean muscle.I'm considering doing the same cycle.

I know test is king,many of you strongly recommended test for my first cyle 6 years ago.I was scared off by the sides and also the fact that I don't want people to know I'm juicing.I'm not an elite bodybuilder,I'm just a regular guy who loves training and dieting.

My stats are 6 feet tall,195lbs,bodyfat appox.12%
Been training for 10 years.

Goals are to gain another 10lbs of lean muscle and get ripped for summer.

This is the cycle which has been recommonded to me and that I am stongly considering.

Test enanthate 500 week for 10 weeks
Deca 200mg week for 10 weeks(mostly just as lube for bad shoulder)
Winny 50mg eod for last 6 weeks
Nolvadex 10-20mg a day for 15 weeks
Vitamin b6 200 mgs a day for 15 weeks
clomid therapy

Is this cycle to much for my goals?Should I go with the milder Primo cycle?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to M18 for your help so far.

 

[drwoody]

bump

 

[chemical soldier]

why such small amounts of deca and primo??? on my second cycle and it includes 30 mgs of dbol 4 first 4 to 5 weeks 500mg of sust and 4oo mgs of deca 4 a total of 14 weeks. just wondering cause i think primo works best at over 400mgs and deca also.

 

[bigmouth2006]

go with the 2nd one and bump the deca to 300mgs because winny is hard on the joints

 

[jmt24]

i think that cycle looks good but if you have shoulder problems, id stay away from the winny. i would also sub arimidex for the noval on cycle and use the noval + clomid for pct. you will def gain 10 lbs off that.

 

[bigmouth2006]

i think that cycle looks good but if you have shoulder problems, id stay away from the winny. i would also sub arimidex for the noval on cycle and use the noval + clomid for pct. you will def gain 10 lbs off that.

good advice as well

 

[drwoody]

Thanks very much to all who have replied.

Ok this is the cycle I have decided on.Please give advice if you see anything that needs adjusting.

500mg test enanthate a week for 10 weeks
300 mg deca a week for 10 weeks
50 mg winny eod for 6 weeks(should I go ed?)
.50 armidex eod for 10 weeks

pct clomid and nolvadex.
I'm noy 100% sure on how to run the pct.
How much clomid/nolvadex?When do I start and for how long do I run it?

Thanks DW

 

[bigcountry61]

i think that cycle looks good but if you have shoulder problems, id stay away from the winny. i would also sub arimidex for the noval on cycle and use the noval + clomid for pct. you will def gain 10 lbs off that.

what he said is rite on...

 

[jmt24]

the problem with deca is it takes a long time to clear your system. optimally, you should wait 4 weeks after deca (at least imo, maybe even 6) to start pct. if you can get some npp, id run that instead for 8 weeks and run the test for 10 and start pct on week 12. if you cant get npp, id run the deca for 9 weeks and the test for 12 and do pct on 14. if you are running clomid and noval for pct, id run the clomid for 100mg first 10 days, noval 40mg first 10 days, and then cut the dose in half for the remaining 3 weeks.