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2 orals in 1 cycle

fcfmuaythai

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what are the thoughts on running 2 orals in 1 cycle. For example, running var weeks 1-4, then winny tabs weeks 6-10. sust would be the base at 250mg/week. would this be too hard on my liver, or would the small break in between the orals be enough to counter some effects?
thanks!
 
Var's not hard on the liver to begin with. Personally, I don't really see why men bother with anavar period unless they just have a lot of cash to blow. I would take out the anavar and use deca instead if it were me, then you will spend half as much for twice the results with little or no hepatoxicity.

I have never put a whole lot of thought into winny tabs so somebody else would have to address that.
 
flex i'm not flaming bro, but anavar really is far superior to winstrol and works wonders for men at the right dose, yes it is pricey i agree, winny fucking kills you joints and at a high dose anavar gains are much better, with that said i agree that he should just do a basic sust deca cycle right now. save your money for the var when your fight comes around bro, and for real your a kickboxer forget about winny its gonna cripple your joints. tbol or var if you want an oral. if you must run the var scrap the winny and get more var so it can be ran at the highest dose possible, that way the strength gains will be awesome.
 
bruce410 said:
flex i'm not flaming bro, but anavar really is far superior to winstrol and works wonders for men at the right dose, yes it is pricey i agree, winny fucking kills you joints and at a high dose anavar gains are much better, with that said i agree that he should just do a basic sust deca cycle right now. save your money for the var when your fight comes around bro, and for real your a kickboxer forget about winny its gonna cripple your joints. tbol or var if you want an oral. if you must run the var scrap the winny and get more var so it can be ran at the highest dose possible, that way the strength gains will be awesome.

I can see why some are fans of var, I'm simply saying I don't see how it's superior to deca side effect wise per pound of muscle gained. In fact, although I've never used just deca and haven't used a huge amount of deca period, I'm not convinced that any steroid in existence has less sides per pound of muscle gained than deca, primo included. Then as you say var's pretty pricey.

I see why women use it, no sides plus it can be stopped on short notice. But I'm just confused as to why so many men want to use it. Not saying it's a "feminine" steroid or anything, it's just with the price and the lack of evidence that it's superior to many other steroids, I just think it might be overrated.

To be honest, and I know this is weird, but the oral that made me feel fantastic was plain old anadrol. I know people will ask me what I'm smoking, but if taken for short periods I don't understand all the complaints some people make about it. I mean, I felt some minor stomach discomfort, and other than expected sides like a little bloat I felt great. I've even taken it on a maintenance or below diet and looked pretty good IMO. Obviously I wasn't planning on entering a contest or anything, but the mild appetite loss and strength gains actually worked out pretty well. I definitely prefer it to dbol at roughly equivalent dosages. I never used it for longer than 2-3 weeks though if I remember correctly.
 
The comment that anavar isn't that rough on the liver, does that answer fcfmuaytha's original question about two orals in same cycle, in particular winny and anavar with some separation?

I realize flex indicated didn't have a suggestion on the winny tabs, but I was curious to the same thing.

Fcfmuaytha....what are your planned dosages for the orals? Also, are you planning to take liver detox tabs and milk thistle conurrently? Thoughts?
 
well in that regard there is no way i will disagree with you because i feel that deca is a wonder drug and is pretty much harmless if taken correctly. no your not nuts at all for saying the drol rocked its just most dudes don't keep all that. like bros on here will run 100mg of var ed and get the same strength gains as drol, not the size, but hey thats incredible thats why i say it can be quite effective. you'll never hear me argue that deca isn't hands down the best steroid for a man with my goals who does not bloat or get deca dick. live by the deca grow by the deca
 
I say go for it regardless is like if your doing an oral for 10 weeks and Var is not very harsh on the liver and liver damage is wayyyyy overrated just make sure you check your liver enzymes before and after the cycle
 
liver damage is quite overrated, my friend literally did eod injects of winstrol 50mg for 2 years straight, no liver damage just hurt his bp and cholesterol. i did winny for a couple months when i knew jack shitt, and i was fine as well. aids patients will take dianobol in 50mg ed doses for months straight
 
bruce410 said:
liver damage is quite overrated, my friend literally did eod injects of winstrol 50mg for 2 years straight, no liver damage just hurt his bp and cholesterol. i did winny for a couple months when i knew jack shitt, and i was fine as well. aids patients will take dianobol in 50mg ed doses for months straight

I agree...

The liver rebuilds itself! If you take supplements you should be fine unless you have a liver disorder. People drink 12 beers a day for years and they are okay.
 
fcfmuaythai said:
what are the thoughts on running 2 orals in 1 cycle. For example, running var weeks 1-4, then winny tabs weeks 6-10. sust would be the base at 250mg/week. would this be too hard on my liver, or would the small break in between the orals be enough to counter some effects?
thanks!

You'll be fine, assuming you're not running high dosages. Just run Tylers detox and milk thistle to minimize effects. I ran 40mg dbol for 4 weeks then 60mg winny for 6 weeks while running sust and my values were only slightly elevated afterwards. I'm not one who is "resistant" to side effects like some bros on here either.
 
I am running 2 orals in one cycle. Dbol @ 30 mg for 6 weeks, then winny @ 50mg ED for 6 weeks. Doen this before, no problem. Dark piss..just dirnk lots of H2o
 
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