1st Cycle soon!!!

[hinson4]

Ok...getting ready for my first cycle, also talked my workout partner into going dark w/ me. We are going to wait till after finals so we can party out one last night before locking down on the diets.

I am about 5'8" 185lbs @ 14%BF, and am thinking about doing an Anavar only cycle (40mg ED - 8wks). Damn this shit is expensive, but from what I here, its worth it. I hear the size gains are moderate and lean (which is what I want w/ already being 14%BF), and strength gains are awesome.


My buddy is about 5'7" 155lbs @ 8%BF, and wants to do a mass cycle (wants 25lbs or so). I recommended the following cycle consisting of Sust/EQ/Dbol. Told him that he should see very good gains if keeps diet in check.

Sust: 250mg/wk...(weeks 1-8) (nile)
EQ: 200mg/wk...(weeks 1-10) (QV)
Dbol: 30mg/day...(weeks 1-5) (Denkall)
Clomid post cycle

Is this too much or too little for his size (his 1st cycle)? I didn't want to recommend too much...I told him to go light and see how his body reacts to the juice. Will he need any anti-est (besides having nolva on hand)? Any other suggestions...

 

[MikeyG]

well... I just wanna say that you will probably need to read up some more about your own anavar cycle-- I honestly dont think a var only cycle is a good idea. yes, it is expensive, but you'll get more dramatic gains if you throw in some form of testosterone.

as for your friend's cycle... 250mg sustanon a week is probably a bit too low- you could go for 250mg Every 4 days. EQ should not be at 200mg weekly, should bump it up to at least 400mg weekly to see optimal results. and dont run it for 10 weeks because it's a extreemly long acting ether, it'll kick in maybe in week 4 or 5.

D-bol should be for 1-4 weeks, five is o.k. but it's a bit much.

AND YES, ANTI-E's are a must-- you should obtain the anti-e's and post cycle therapy even before you start.


Or you can do a simple Test cycle.. of 500mg weekly. You can get dramatic gains for your first cycle bud.

 

[TECH ONE]

Your buddies cycle looks solid, i would however do as MikeyG said and shot the sust every 4 days (as 250mg/week is pretty weak!) and also he should run the sust for 10 weeks and not 8!! Other than that tell your buddie to eat like a mofo!!! Good luck on your cycles bro!!!

 

[NapoleanComplex]

First of all, MikeyG is right...you need to through so test in there...

Second of all, your buddy doesn't need to mess with EQ. He would be perfectly fine with 500mg/week of sust, and the dbol. Also, if he is worried about the bloat, then just tell him to run some clen after post cycle recovery, to further reduce the bloat.

Just my thoughts.

 

[Mr.Holland]

Sorry guys, but i dont agree with you.
His buddies cycle looks good to me. Its his first cycle you know. 250mg of test a week is more than enough. Did you forget that it works for four weeks.. it stacks up you know.

For you Hinson4, i would add something. But not test if you worry about sides and bloating. Add some deca or Eq. Just 200mg a week. Maybe higher the dose after a couple of weeks.

For your friend... keep some nolva at hand.. you never know.
Run some clomid at the end...

One thing i do agree tech one on... EAT LIKE A MOFO!!

good luck bro's

 

[NapoleanComplex]

Mr.Holland - Are you saying that his friend should run the cycle as Hinson4 planned it (sust/EQ/dbol)? Or are you saying just sust250/wk adn dbol?

 

[Mr.Holland]

He can do both..
Just saing that 250mg a week is more than enough.. in my opinion.
Its just their first cycle. If they got real stuff, they will grow on everything... so why go high. Just some simple stuff, low dose.

i would recommend to bulk:
250 mg Sust a week
200 mg deca a week
(maybe add some Dbol.. dont have to)

to maintain muscle while on diet:
some deca (200mg a week)
and some winny or primobolan

 

[DaddyX]

i would bump the EQ to 400 - buddies cycle looks good tho

 

[AlbinoAssassin]

I'm not a juice expert, but why run 3 drugs for a first cycle. To me it would make more sense to just run 1 (maybe 2) and find out how your body responds to it, otherwise you won't know what works for you. Just run test or maybe test and EQ.

 

[NapoleanComplex]

Mr.Holland - do you think that running the sust250/deca200 per week would be better than just running sust500 per week? Would the mass gains be the same, would the deca/sust be more keepable gains?

AlbinoAssassin - I agree to some extent...3 drugs is a bit much, but I think dbol is special in that from what I can tell, people really don't count this as part of there cycle. Its more of a jump start for the cycle. Maybe if it was Test/EQ/Fina...that would be too many drugs for a first cycle. But I honestly don't think that dbol counts.