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1st cycle- HCG use during

SFMikeS

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My first cycle is going to be a modest one starting in about 4 weeks (as soon as i get out of Durka-Durkastan here!) It will consist of 500mg Test E EW and 50mg Proviron ED for 10 weeks. I would like to use HCG intermittently but sparingly during the cycle. What is the dose you should stay under before you have to worry about the extra aromatization it will cause? I was planning on 500 IU just once a week for the last 5 weeks. I am trying to not run an AI or SERM during the cycle but I will have them on hand of course.
 
imho...hcg is not needed for a first timer.keep some nova on hand and use clomid for pct. hcg is more used for heavier cycles or more experienced users. your cycle looks good,simple.i didnt start using hcg untill about my 5th run, when doses were higher and took a few compounds at once, then the hcg worked well.sometimes less is better.try the test cycle,have nova in case the nips get sore and see how much you get shut down and how long it takes to recover...my .02 by the way, what is your age?
 
Proviron will work as a weak anti-e. But at the first sign of any "funny business" going on with your nips start the AI.

which AI will u have on hand?

I would stick to 250IU's 2X ew. Run hcg past the last 5 weeks into your pct.

btw - what is your pct plan?
 
chestrockwell420 said:
imho...hcg is not needed for a first timer.keep some nova on hand and use clomid for pct. hcg is more used for heavier cycles or more experienced users. your cycle looks good,simple.i didnt start using hcg untill about my 5th run, when doses were higher and took a few compounds at once, then the hcg worked well.sometimes less is better.try the test cycle,have nova in case the nips get sore and see how much you get shut down and how long it takes to recover...my .02 by the way, what is your age?

Sorry but I totally disagree. My first cycle was a ten week test e at 500mg per week. I lost size and volume by day 12 of my cycle. YES day 12. Each case is very different and I needed HCG much earlier than anticipated.
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
Sorry but I totally disagree. My first cycle was a ten week test e at 500mg per week. I lost size and volume by day 12 of my cycle. YES day 12. Each case is very different and I needed HCG much earlier than anticipated.
True you have to find out what works for you. I found that 250iu 3 times a week starting about the 3rd or 4th week in works best for me.
 
Well as usual when it comes to HCG usage the opinions vary greatly. Let me answer some of the questions asked of me first, I am 30 years old 5' 10" and 190lbs. PCT for my above cycle will begin 1 week after last shot and will consist of 20mg Aromasin ED for 3 weeks and 20mg Nolva ED for 4 weeks. I also will be using some natural stuff like endoamp for cortisol and sustain alpha during PCT. I didn't see the need to overdo it on the script drugs since it is a modest cycle and will prolly only need a modest PCT. I favor the on-cycle use of HCG as opposed to during PCT because it just makes more sense to keep the testes stimulated rather than have to start from scratch. I do agree that HCG may not be neccessary for me because it is my first time and this cycle shouldn't shut me down that hard either but again I guess my body will tell me. Thanks for the input guys.

Oh the AI that I will use during the cycle if neccessary will be Adex, I think Aromasin is a little too strong for on cycle use. (I am picking up some letro also just in case the worst happens)
 
Run hcg during. Ive ran it every which way known to man.. 2x/week.. Mon & Thursday.. Look into Swales protocol..Very good info!
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Run hcg during. Ive ran it every which way known to man.. 2x/week.. Mon & Thursday.. Look into Swales protocol..Very good info!

Do you also inject your AAS on Mon and Thur? The reason I ask is I'm wondering if the sharp spike in test levels that injecting both HCG and AAS on the same day would cause any additional problems.
 
SFMikeS said:
Do you also inject your AAS on Mon and Thur? The reason I ask is I'm wondering if the sharp spike in test levels that injecting both HCG and AAS on the same day would cause any additional problems.

Right now, yes.. During summer months, I inject aas ED.. I never have experienced any problems doing it. I actually never felt better..
 
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