Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I was going to start my 1st cycle (Deca-Durabolin and Clomid) and I was hoping for some advise as to what some of you think. I am an avid lifter and in really good shape but I am a very hard gainer which is why i have decided to try the cycle. What can I expect and any other comments anybody may have. Thanks
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big.nad
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im certain more experienced bro's on here will give u better advice on this 1 as ive never used deca. what i do know is that dont use deca on its own if u intend on haveing a sex life. (deca dick)! u probs wont get it up. try mixing it with some test e or some other kind of test. and run the test longer than the deca. also a good idea to run some aifm throughout the cycle AND during pct.
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palehorse51
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YEP! run it with some test!!
I do not know who gave you the idea to run deca only as a first cycle....but that is probably the dumbest thing you can do.
Test should be a part of every person's first cycle...PERIOD!
TEST + an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) for a first cycle.
In order to state any kind of dosages, what are your goals with this cycle?
BMJ
Test should be a part of every person's first cycle...PERIOD!
TEST + an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) for a first cycle.
In order to state any kind of dosages, what are your goals with this cycle?
BMJ
Cauliflower Ear
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stay away from nalandrones for a while bro...just test first cycle...anti e if nessicary....500mg test e ew for 12 weeks...then clomid nolva hcg for pct...that should be everyone's first cycle
My goal is to pack on size and gain strength. Like I said I am a very hard gainer. A friend I work out with told me about using deca and said he used it before and it worked well for him. From all the research I have read that is what everyone basically is saying is to do test
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blut wump
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How old are you? How long have you been training? What does your training schedule look like? What does your diet look like? How many calories per day do you eat? How many grams of protein per day do you eat?
Sorry for the white light treatment but some answers to those question might help people to help you.
Deca alone is a poor choice for a first cycle although it can work well for some. It's a really bad choice if you're older and not a monk. Depending on your answers to the above questions, it could be that steroids would be better left for a little later while you get other factors lined up first.
Sorry for the white light treatment but some answers to those question might help people to help you.
Deca alone is a poor choice for a first cycle although it can work well for some. It's a really bad choice if you're older and not a monk. Depending on your answers to the above questions, it could be that steroids would be better left for a little later while you get other factors lined up first.
Brian123
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Generally speaking ( I say generally speaking because you offer no stats ) Test is a much better choice. No Deca dick worries and better overall results I believe. Deca is never to be taken alone without test anyway. Unless if you're certain that you're one of the lucky individuals who never get deca dick. Deca is great for the joints.
And never take test without an anti estrogen. I perfer Femara. Some wait til their nipples get itchy, THEN take an anti e. But I'm against that approach because anti e's also help with lowering water retention, therefore keeping blood pressure within an acceptable range. High blood pressure is not good for your kidneys and is "bad" for many other reasons as well.
You have lots of research to do bro. If you're young then your natural test should be enough.
If you're ever to put anything into your body, make sure you do your research. MANY ( some of them huge ) people at gyms have gyno, or experience unnecessary side effects and consider them to be the norm and offer advice based on their experiences.
I know a guy, who doesnt know nothing about steroids but just wanted to juice. He'd hear about Deca, tren, whatever and get all excited. So he listened to his trainer, and took Masteron, Deca, Anadrol, Testosterone Enanthate, and a shot of tren that he didnt like because he got a sore shoulder after the injection.
No anti e's no nothing.
Only HCG during and after the cycle.
Ask anyone on this board and they'll tell you he and his instructor were stupid.
So big guys at gyms who have juiced before arent always the best source of information or advice.
These are powerful hormones that you'd be putting into your body. Not candy. So do your research. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Who knows, you might end up being convinced that shorter cycles offer the best gains vs sides ratio? Or in anavar instead of test, or whatever, depending on what you want and how much you want to aviod the sides.
Whatever your cycle may be, and for whatever amount of time. You'll still need to know how long whatever drug stays in your system as well. You might not want to do a 10-12 week cycle using Testosterone Propionate for example.
Bottom line is that theres so many variables here. So do your research. Then make your own decisions, then ask for criticism.
Just my 2cents.
And never take test without an anti estrogen. I perfer Femara. Some wait til their nipples get itchy, THEN take an anti e. But I'm against that approach because anti e's also help with lowering water retention, therefore keeping blood pressure within an acceptable range. High blood pressure is not good for your kidneys and is "bad" for many other reasons as well.
You have lots of research to do bro. If you're young then your natural test should be enough.
If you're ever to put anything into your body, make sure you do your research. MANY ( some of them huge ) people at gyms have gyno, or experience unnecessary side effects and consider them to be the norm and offer advice based on their experiences.
I know a guy, who doesnt know nothing about steroids but just wanted to juice. He'd hear about Deca, tren, whatever and get all excited. So he listened to his trainer, and took Masteron, Deca, Anadrol, Testosterone Enanthate, and a shot of tren that he didnt like because he got a sore shoulder after the injection.
No anti e's no nothing.
Only HCG during and after the cycle.
Ask anyone on this board and they'll tell you he and his instructor were stupid.
So big guys at gyms who have juiced before arent always the best source of information or advice.
These are powerful hormones that you'd be putting into your body. Not candy. So do your research. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Who knows, you might end up being convinced that shorter cycles offer the best gains vs sides ratio? Or in anavar instead of test, or whatever, depending on what you want and how much you want to aviod the sides.
Whatever your cycle may be, and for whatever amount of time. You'll still need to know how long whatever drug stays in your system as well. You might not want to do a 10-12 week cycle using Testosterone Propionate for example.
Bottom line is that theres so many variables here. So do your research. Then make your own decisions, then ask for criticism.
Just my 2cents.
blut wump said:
Sorry for no stats but I am 27 and weigh 190. Up until recently(within the last year) I was always around 170-175. My diet was pretty good not perfect but I was never able to gain. I used halodrol 50 last summer and it put roughly 10 lbs on. I have just been so fustrated with my strength gains and size I have slacked off on my diet. So I have put on a few unwanted pounds. I know what I need to do as far as diet but even eating right and lifting I still dont get the results I want. I thought I would never use but just the gains I saw from the halodrol has really changed my perspective. I have done research but probably not as much as I should have. That is why I am asking for a little advice and I appreciate all everyone has added.
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