Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below First cylce doing 30mg d-bol 1-5, 400 deca 1-10, 500 sust 1-10. Was thinking of doing 50 mg ed of Winny tabs week 6-10 to harden up the cylce. Drinking alot of water and taking Milk Thistle during the first 5 weeks. I know not 2 orals at the same time but since I'm splitting the weeks, do you think it's OK.
1st cycle/ add Winny or not/ Help guys
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MadCow1
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Dude - add winny, oral masterone, equipoise, proprionate.
You're in your first cycle with 1+ gram per week and 3 drugs. Stop adding drugs and tinkering. Get into the gym. I can gain off 20mg of dbol ED or 200mg of deca weekly taken alone and you are thinking about adding a 4th drug at 350mg weekly. Stop fucking with it and train.
Sorry to blast you but I see so many 1st timer cycles at this dosage level (which is low according to many of those here on their 2nd and even 3rd cycles - you should really listen to these guys as they obviously know their stuff) that it truly disturbs me. The only place this dosage isn't out of line in on these boards.
Even 10 years ago no one was coming close to these dosages for their first cycles - hell it wasn't until later that you even stacked anything (although I do believe in stacking but as a means to increase effectiveness and lower the required total dosage).
You're in your first cycle with 1+ gram per week and 3 drugs. Stop adding drugs and tinkering. Get into the gym. I can gain off 20mg of dbol ED or 200mg of deca weekly taken alone and you are thinking about adding a 4th drug at 350mg weekly. Stop fucking with it and train.
Sorry to blast you but I see so many 1st timer cycles at this dosage level (which is low according to many of those here on their 2nd and even 3rd cycles - you should really listen to these guys as they obviously know their stuff) that it truly disturbs me. The only place this dosage isn't out of line in on these boards.
Even 10 years ago no one was coming close to these dosages for their first cycles - hell it wasn't until later that you even stacked anything (although I do believe in stacking but as a means to increase effectiveness and lower the required total dosage).
You said it. If your a novice, then all you can do is research and know what you read. If everything you know is from what you read, then you take it as the gospel and go with it. Since Winny is used for hardening, then makes sense to me. But what you say makes sense also. Thanks for the input
Dude, you can add the winny but ride it out further than the deca and test by like four weeks! This way when the deca and sust have totally left your system and you would be going catabolic then winny will stop that and help you harden and keep the bulk you've gained. Happy growin.
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str8cubano
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Since you are doing deca and sust at good levels, plus d-bol..you are going to be jacked pretty soon. To be on the safe side, and since its winter, just add a little winny and or anavar. (anavar would be a little safer since its your first cycle and great for hardening and reducing abdominal fat ) but winstrol is good too. If you went with anavar, id say weeks 6 through 10, same with the winny. Or you can use anavar at a milder dose say 20mg/day instead of the usual 40mg/day, to keep solid gains...good luck..regardless your going to be big with a cycle like that for your first time...don't over due it...shit i haven't even done test yet...dying to though
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MadCow1
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Admittedly it can get confusing. Don't worry about adding anything. You will be really happy with your cycle the way it is.
If you were to add it - add it at the end but with so much other shit in you why not save it for another cycle (oh - BTW - everyone wanted to do just 1 cycle and then get out. It's when you start playing around w/ dosages and combos on the 2nd one that you realize there's something clingy about it that keeps your mind's attention on roids).
If you were to add it - add it at the end but with so much other shit in you why not save it for another cycle (oh - BTW - everyone wanted to do just 1 cycle and then get out. It's when you start playing around w/ dosages and combos on the 2nd one that you realize there's something clingy about it that keeps your mind's attention on roids).
