17aa's

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Injecting winny...is it any less harmful on your liver when you do a IM inj. as opposed to eating 50mg orally?

 

[Meat_head]

The injectable is easier on your liver than the orals

 

[DIVISION]

Injecting winny...is it any less harmful on your liver when you do a IM inj. as opposed to eating 50mg orally?

It's a negligible difference........you are better of doing oral since you save your body the extra stick.

Take Winstrol orally and save the pins for the AAS that you can't take orally.



DIV

 

[nydj66]

The injectable is easier on your liver than the orals

Absolutely not!

The liver filters the entire volume of the blood every 30 minutes. Regardless of how you take a 17-AA steroid, the liver will eventually have to deactivate all of it.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Absolutely not!

The liver filters the entire volume of the blood every 30 minutes. Regardless of how you take a 17-AA steroid, the liver will eventually have to deactivate all of it.

thanks

 

[pitbullstl]

Injecting winny...is it any less harmful on your liver when you do a IM inj. as opposed to eating 50mg orally?

Without a doubt, but this also depends on what else your liver is trying to filter at the same time. ie: multiple 17 aa's.

 

[Madcow2]

THis

 

[Madcow2]

Absolutely not!

The liver filters the entire volume of the blood every 30 minutes. Regardless of how you take a 17-AA steroid, the liver will eventually have to deactivate all of it.

This is the right answer. At best, you avoid first pass. Means next to nothing.

 

[Ulter]

Well, yes and no.

The advantage to your liver if you shoot it is that it will not get all 50mg at once if you have a depot. Yes it has to be broken down in the liver no matter how you use it. But there is less stress if it's processed slowly as the depot releases than if you swallow it.

But it doesn't make much difference anyways. The amount of stress put on the liver by 50mg of winny isn't going to cause injury to it. It will only make it work harder for a short time.
You should be using Glucorell R and Tyler Liver Detox with the 17aa's because the Glucorell R will accelerate the reproduction of the damaged liver cells and the Tyler will detox your liver leaving it less toxins to deal with as it breaks down your winny.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Well, yes and no.

The advantage to your liver if you shoot it is that it will not get all 50mg at once if you have a depot. Yes it has to be broken down in the liver no matter how you use it. But there is less stress if it's processed slowly as the depot releases than if you swallow it.

But it doesn't make much difference anyways. The amount of stress put on the liver by 50mg of winny isn't going to cause injury to it. It will only make it work harder for a short time.
You should be using Glucorell R and Tyler Liver Detox with the 17aa's because the Glucorell R will accelerate the reproduction of the damaged liver cells and the Tyler will detox your liver leaving it less toxins to deal with as it breaks down your winny.

Good reply, i'd give K but i have to spread it around

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Without a doubt, but this also depends on what else your liver is trying to filter at the same time. ie: multiple 17 aa's.

Well my liver will be filtering deca, test enatat, and winstrol...but im wondering if I should even do the winstrol since I've done 3 other cycles this year with it.

 

[Ulter]

Well my liver will be filtering deca, test enatat,

No. These are not broken down in the liver, only 17aa's. So these don't have a liver stressing effect. In fact, they have no ill-effect on your liver.

 

[pitbullstl]

Well my liver will be filtering deca, test enatat, and winstrol...but im wondering if I should even do the winstrol since I've done 3 other cycles this year with it.

I have never been a huge fan of winny, dries me out way to severe, even with deca.

 

[pitbullstl]

No. These are not broken down in the liver, only 17aa's. So these don't have a liver stressing effect. In fact, they have no ill-effect on your liver.

Yep.


Yo Ulter, any new stuff on the way??

 

[Ulter]

We're working on a energy capsule strictly for cardio training that should be acceptable in Canada and Australia, thank God. Genetec is working on two cell volumizers.

But I don't want to hijack DBBT's thread so that's all I'll say.

 

[KUSSEIN]

I know this guy at the gym who is taking anavar and winstrol orally.How bad on the liver is this????

 

[Dial_tone]

I would use Tyler's with any oral steroid, but that's just me. I haven't actually used one in years but I will be using Winny this coming year.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

No. These are not broken down in the liver, only 17aa's. So these don't have a liver stressing effect. In fact, they have no ill-effect on your liver.

Cool thanks again

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Well, yes and no.

The advantage to your liver if you shoot it is that it will not get all 50mg at once if you have a depot. Yes it has to be broken down in the liver no matter how you use it. But there is less stress if it's processed slowly as the depot releases than if you swallow it.

But it doesn't make much difference anyways. The amount of stress put on the liver by 50mg of winny isn't going to cause injury to it. It will only make it work harder for a short time.
You should be using Glucorell R and Tyler Liver Detox with the 17aa's because the Glucorell R will accelerate the reproduction of the damaged liver cells and the Tyler will detox your liver leaving it less toxins to deal with as it breaks down your winny.

So should one take Glucorell R and Tyler Liver Detox when taking other inj. steroids, not 17aa's? test, deca

 

[DIVISION]

So should one take Glucorell R and Tyler Liver Detox when taking other inj. steroids, not 17aa's? test, deca

Tylers is specifically for detoxification of the liver......which goes hand in hand with 17AA's.

The Glucorell R has nothing to do with that.

Injectible AAS don't affect the liver, they metabolize differently and don't go through first pass like the orals.



DIV

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Tylers is specifically for detoxification of the liver......which goes hand in hand with 17AA's.

The Glucorell R has nothing to do with that.

Injectible AAS don't affect the liver, they metabolize differently and don't go through first pass like the orals.



DIV

ok so the Gluc R is only when on 17aa's gotcha

 

[PlayaPimp]

All steroids, oral or injectable go through the liver, only injects pass through the liver less than the orals. but they all go through the blood stream which obvisously passes through the liver

 

[LVTitan]

All steroids, oral or injectable go through the liver, only injects pass through the liver less than the orals. but they all go through the blood stream which obvisously passes through the liver

your beer and soda and french fries also go thru your liver too, but thats what it was designed to do... they dont hurt it... yes the test and deca will go thru the liver eventually, but they will not raise your liver values because your liver doesnt see them as toxic... the carbon bond in the c17aa orals is the toxic part... the dbol is not toxic, the anadrol is not toxic, it is the c17 bond added to the molecule that is toxic.