Recent content by vocor

Agree. Strongly advise you get to 15% max bf any AAS to see the max visual result. The lower, the better IMO. At 20%, you'll get bigger and stronger, but part of it is you have to take in more cals to build the muscle. Very hard to lose BF and add mass at the same time. Hit the treadmill...

What are your stats? How many cycles do you have under your belt? That's a good start. Hard to judge without that.

Yup. Easy. Simple. And works.

Bingo . . . and I think he was trying to make that point and badly shanked it, so anything valid got ripped. Too bad . . . he wrote one of the best articles on pinning that I've read ANYWHERE for EF folks on this forum, and now its been "owned". It was very, very thorough. If like 9 mods jump...

Absolutely it is. Like any AAS. Watch the diet and train hard and you should see great strength increase and good vascularity improvement. Love the stuff.

How come? Did you have the gains all vanish? BTW agree with longer cycles that are test based. But even at 4 weeks, you can maintain gains IF you work as hard off cycle as on. I have. But I guess it doesn't matter . . . IMO the OP is too young to be on AAS.

some of the "tags-keywords" showed how personal this thread has become.

Really mild, but not bad for a 1st time cycle. It is better to be safe. At your age though, why not just ride the natty test wave? Even tbol suppresses you. At least you are being mild so don't expect miracles and don't go crazy. I'm of the opinion now that test should be the basis for any...

TEST alone is useless? Nothing further from the truth! Think about all the guys who are big off natty test. TEST IS THE BEST. Deca will shut you down hard, so my opinion is running test with that is mandatory to help you out. I know some run deca alone, but to each his own in that case I...

Thank you. That's really what I thought you'd say. In life the simple solutions are often the best ones.

I definitely had the appetite suppression with var. I think that is a good thing if you are trying to lean up, maintain muscle, and gain strength. But you definitely don't get bulky and can't with this. Hope your appetite gets in line with your goals. Thx for sharing your progress.

What are your goals? Stats? This is such a mild cycle, that it'll be hard to see any physical change. You should gain some strength. All I can say is skip the AAS until the BF is where you want it. That takes hard work and diet. I have experience with a mild oral cycle when my BF was about...

Re: Test E for repair and recovery...not necessarily size. Discuss and critique pleas Good work here. Great picts and you definitely kept things in perspective, adapted, and kept a log. Knowledge is definitely power here.

Def good to see different opinions on it. BTW . . . what WOULD make your top 10 based on the "quality muscle mass to risk" ratio. I'd be interested to read it.

Good deal and move doing the running to get the BF down before doing anything. You will really be thankful for that. Coming from someone who didn't do the work 1st, and later wished he had. Test E & C will be similar, long-acting esters. Nice and easy, with 10-12 day half-lives. It'll take...