Nah, Im gonna have to disagree on that man. Granted Im no "expert" here. But when I did my first cycle, which was Deca and Dbol approx 400-500mg ew on the Deca, and 20-50 mg ed on the dbol , whole cycle lasted for about 8-9 weeks. When I started i was a flabby and soft 215 , not sure the body...