Recent content by Conciliator

We're still waiting for you to substantiate your claims that "the way Clen interacts with the CNS is also VERY taxing and harsh, and also leaches calcium and other minerals from the body." Do you have any references for those claims? Or just a competing product that you'll sell us instead?

Huh? When did I ever say clen "is safe"? To the contrary, I talked about undue risks and side effects that are undoubtedly present at high doses. This is almost unintelligible, but I think I get the gist. I do, however, have to disagree that "the ratio of a therapeutic dose and potentially...

What is significant? Do you understand what statistical significance is? It means that the study failed to show that the differences were large enough to be due to anything more than just change. It means the study failed to find a statistical difference in collagen deposition between placebo...

I'm not discounting the theory. I'm saying that you haven't presented a shred of evidence to support it. There's no reason for anyone reading this to believe it occurs. You are now relying on the argument that "each of the mechanisms is well-founded." That's nothing but an argumentum ad populum...

I sound like a competitor trying to sell clen? I hope I sound more educated than that :). I'm not selling anything, I'm just a bodybuilding enthusiast. As for saving the children, I don't think anything should stand in the way of objective discussion about the facts, even if it means calling...

Occam's Razor? I don't think anyone thinks that clen is magic or completely safe. I think that's a fallacious straw man. Rather, I think clen has utility for mobilizing fat when there's a large caloric deficit. It's useful at low BF percentages when there's little fat left to mobilize. It also...

Re: For all those new people asking about Clenbuterol This is a proposed mechanism of action, which I appreciate. However, it's far from evidence. Do you have any references that these steps occur in humans? I don't think I've ever heard anyone report a reduction in thyroid levels after a...

School me? lol. I never said that what you claimed was incorrect. I said that I found no evidence supporting what you said. Until you post some references, all you have is a questionable, baseless claim. The reason I asked for references in the first place was to learn. I'll give you a hearty...

Then he should have no problem providing some references instead of excuses for why he can't.

I take it you haven't heard of Helios. It's injectable clen and yohimbine. Bodybuilders have been using it for years.

I can't tell you the number of times I've heard people merely claim there are references supporting a position only to give excuses for why they can't be posted. In this case, it's "I don't have time to find them." Next you'll say "they're easy to find, so you can find them yourself." Then it...

According to what? Please post some references.

Not really. Unless you take 1 mcg per kilogram ON DAY 1 OF DOSING. I don't know anyone who does that. Doses usually only get that high after a few weeks of desensitization, at which point you're no longer extapolating to the same thing in humans. You're probably referring to this study. Beta-2...

I'd like to see any references you have that clen causes an increase in callogen in skeletal muscle, especially in humans or at doses relevant to human use. This study in lambs contradicts that, as "Clenbuterol significantly decreased collagen concentration because myofibrillar proteins were...

Re: For all those new people asking about Clenbuterol Do you have any evidence that clenbuterol causes metabolic depression after discontinuation? What damage are you referring to? Cardiomyocyte apoptosis?