I did a fina conversion using Bill Roberts no BB/BA method. Used grapeseed oil and did a triple filtration using a coffee filter, .45 micron and .20 micron Whatman. I don't know if I got it more concentrated or lost a lot of tren in the filters but I ended up with somewhere between 30-35 mL of oil. I figure 40 mg/mL would be a reasonable assumption. This was my very first IM injection and very first use of an AAS. Used a 25 gauge, 1.5 in pin and felt virtually nothing when I jabbed. I barely felt the oil going in (I can understand why it would give you a cough with the BA, something tightened in my lungs I think, but very slightly) It was much less dramatic than I thought it would be so I started to wonder if the tren was really there. But it's about 15-20 minutes later...I feel power!!!! It almost feels a bit like an initial dose of Adderall. How long should I wait before assaulting the gym? Any other feedback besides the whole tren is not a first time AAS drug? After my experience with the ADD drugs, I've determined that more potent=more benefit, less sides for the buck. I am going to do 1cc injections ED or EOD for 2-3 weeks now and see how it goes. Plan to just assault my GI tract with vitamins, minerals, and as much amino acids as it will take.