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Congress just gave away another $48 Billion to fight AIDS

EnderJE said:
1) Have a snacky cake.
2) That's fine. I don't want to pay for it.
You aren't paying for them to have sex or for me to have a snacky cake.

What you are saying is that you don't want to see an extra $10 bucks come out of your pocket to fund research that will save lives. you would rather see people die because it's their own fault that they are sick.

Afterall, you are way better than them, so you should live forever, right?
 
heatherrae said:
You aren't paying for them to have sex or for me to have a snacky cake.

What you are saying is that you don't want to see an extra $10 bucks come out of your pocket to fund research that will save lives. you would rather see people die because it's their own fault that they are sick.

Afterall, you are way better than them, so you should live forever, right?


I bet that if people weren't stolen from directly out of their paychecks, a lot of people would donate a lot of money for this cause.

I personally would donate.

Now your question would probably be "what's the difference if the government takes it out if you're going to donate money on your own?"

The answer to that is that there's a huge difference...but I'm not sure if you'll see that.
 
75th said:
I bet that if people weren't stolen from directly out of their paychecks, a lot of people would donate a lot of money for this cause.

I personally would donate.

Now your question would probably be "what's the difference if the government takes it out if you're going to donate money on your own?"

The answer to that is that there's a huge difference...but I'm not sure if you'll see that.
BS all the way around. You wouldn't. Plus, you realize that about 95% of your taxes go to a wasteful war machine out of control to make sure all those people still have jobs, oh and hammers that cost $900 and shit, right? If you think the majority of it is going to welfare moms and AIDS research, you're crazy.
 
heatherrae said:
BS all the way around. You wouldn't. Plus, you realize that about 95% of your taxes go to a wasteful war machine out of control to make sure all those people still have jobs, oh and hammers that cost $900 and shit, right? If you think the majority of it is going to welfare moms and AIDS research, you're crazy.


Its always funny to see people say they know more about me and what I would do than I do. Its a weird phenom.

And I can't help but laugh at how utterly stupid your post is. You say let's let the government take care of providing this money, then in the VERY NEXT SENTENCE you talk about how the government doesn't allocate funds the way it says it will. Even more reason to rely on private donations.

Considering the fact that hundreds of millions of dollars are raised by private charities for the SOLE purpose of providing for AIDS research every single year (and that none of that finds it way towards paying $900 for a hammer) it becomes more and more obvious that once again you're thinking with your heart instead of your brain.
 
And by the way, what's also funny is that...even though I'm not a millionaire like most other members...I probably make more private donations than you do. The cool thing about private donations is that (aside from the money going where it should) you can do in depth research on the organization and focus on causes you believe in.

What money I do donate usually goes towards former members of the armed service, cancer (my gramps died of lung cancer despite smoking the equivalent of one pack of cigarettes his entire life), and MS (both my aunt and uncle...and therefore probably my cousins in the future) are afflicted.

But yeah, as long as you agree with what Uncle Sam is doing about this situation I'm sure you think that makes you the more generous one.
 
heatherrae said:
You aren't paying for them to have sex or for me to have a snacky cake.

What you are saying is that you don't want to see an extra $10 bucks come out of your pocket to fund research that will save lives. you would rather see people die because it's their own fault that they are sick.

Afterall, you are way better than them, so you should live forever, right?
I'm not paying for them to have sex, but I am paying for their consequences. If they got sick, why don't they foot the bill?

I have my own problems to deal with which I am paying for because it affects me personally. AIDS doesn't.
 
mrplunkey said:
You mean-spirited conservative!

Just because you made it doesn't mean you don't have to give me half of it. I'm downtrodden, after all.

Hey... I'm a conservative... watch where you throw those words!!! LOL

You're also talking to someone who lives in Canada... socialized medicine. They are also taxed heavy.

Their's is a economicially oppressed country... I can see where he'd be alittle pissed, if it was going on there. But, it's not so why judge our country for investing in this research, if it doesn't affect you? I don't quite understand.
 
EnderJE said:
I'm not paying for them to have sex, but I am paying for their consequences. If they got sick, why don't they foot the bill?

I have my own problems to deal with which I am paying for because it affects me personally. AIDS doesn't.

Someday g-d forbid through some freak accident, medical, on the street... You might... It is very hard to contract if you don't fall into a risk group, however, things happen. And if not you a family member...
You can't just think in a narrowed, tunnel vision sort of way when it comes to matters like this.
 
EnderJE said:
I'm not sure if you get the meaning behind my post.

Yes, there are some cases of AIDS that are not based on people's decisions. Those cases should get funded.

The cases that aren't and were caused by choice should not.

There are cases when a person is morbidly obese because they were born that way. There are other cases where a person choose to live that way (because of their diet and exercise or lack thereof).

Again, the funding priority is for the ones who did not have a choice.

You can't just select what cases you are going to work on... This is a all or nothing research. You either find a cure / treatment or you don't, it's not like you can just select who you want to take care of or not.
 
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