LOL I haven't actually been calipered but I've been down to 4 so I'm guessing 8 could be closer to 10 but not any higher than that. I tried to be nice to yu boy, but fact is I hope you speculate till you die of a stroke. I've posted pics and even the real ones were said to be fake, it's cool bro. I don;t worry at all about fucking EF broham, hell the only reason I come here is because I know it upsets a few of you bitch ngrs. I love fucking with ya'll I'm sure V or Mitch either one can vouch for my build. Why don't you ask them. Stero I have some actual poseing pics I will share with you bro PM me your email addy. And I never once said I was natural, that's your shit bro, I said I haven't joosed in awhile, you assume too much because your stupid, that's your problem.