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4th cycle for Summer - opinions! Test/Tren/Helladrol/???

the.gladiator1987

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Whats up guys. Planning my 4th cycle and hoping to get strong and lean. I wanna gain mass as well but I want to rip up and get an 8 pack. I know this is all about diet; however I keep a 6 pack when I do bulking cycles and eat whatever and gain 25 lbs, so I know this will give me an edge. Obviously I am gonna tighten up my diet, but it wont be perfect. I have a busy schedule and sometimes I just gotta scarf something down just to get something in.

Anyway I took the last 3 months off because I am a new dad (yay me) and I havent found time to get to the gym. This week is the first time Ive been and I am friggen sore! Lost a lot of strength but hopefully it will come back quickly. The plan is to start the cycle as soon as I gain about 5 lbs and get most of my strength back.

I have found that in the past cycles, I seem to gain a lot of strength on cycle, but then lose a lot of it as well. This has happened for numerous reasons; getting sick in post cycle, not eating enough, and this last one of just becoming a new dad and stop working out altogether. That HAS to change with this cycle. In the past Ive always taken more bulking steroids; test/dbol/beastdrol/anadrol. Ive also taken masteron before.

BTW my stats are 5'9", 186lbs, 10% BF.. I dont plan on taking cycle until I get to 190-195lbs.

Here is my cycle I plan to take:
Test e week 1-12 - 750mg
Helladrol week 1-5 - 5 caps
Tren e week 5-12 - 500mg
???

PCT: (I know what works for me to recover so dont bother telling me what works or not)
Clomid
Sustain Alpha
HCGenerate
Forma-Stanzol
UNLEASHED
POST CYCLE

Couple queastions before I order everything:

1) Should I add another compound to my cycle? Problem is that I dont wanna gain even more strength/size on cycle if I am just gonna lose it, Im almost thinking that a low dose cycle would be more beneficial for keeping gains long term. I hate the roller coaster effect that has been happening to me because of taking large doses and multiple compounds. however, I have not done the best job of trying to keep gains post cycle.

2) What can I do to maximize my strength post cycle? I am thinking of taking creatine, eating MORE food than when I was on, and maybe doing a 5/3/1 routine.
 
check out my tren log.

I would look into stacking masteron with the tren.

also you definately want to stop the tren and run the test longer, will make for an easy recovery. especially since you are running the E tren and not the ace.. E will take longer to clear. so maybe run the tren week 1-7 and the test 1-10 ...

and dont forget the cabaser every 4 days.. will aid your sleep at the very least.

looks like a nice cycle, make sure you put up a log with pics.. that will be awesome to watch your progress.. it would be nice to run E and not ace to reduce the injections so I am very curious to see how it goes for you.
 
I think yer sexxay enough <3
 
Are you using the Forma as your on cycle AI? I just see it in your PCT. You need an AI during cycle and I would use HCG for sure before your post cycle starts as well.
 
Steve, Ive taken mast before, and didnt really like it. I looked good, but honestly I look just as good when I take test and dbol, and mast is more expensive for me...

Lart - Ive never had to use an AI on cycle. IDK about tren though, I know I need to research it more before I use it. I dont wanna get gyno through prolactin I think?

Bloke - I know im gonna lose strength no matter what, but damn it seems like there is a way to keep them at maximal levels. I guess I need a strong PCT with some supps to help boost strength. I get strong no matter what I take, cant wait for tren :chomp:
 
yeah really you do not need mast to reach your goals.

I've actually stopped mast in my log and upped the tren.. I want to finish away the tren soon and then keep going with test + higher mast to make sure my receptors are clear from tren.

since you are using E and not ace I would consider still doing 4 solid weeks in between the last injection of tren and your last injection of test instead of just 2.

E has a 8 or 9 day half life.. vs. 2-3 days of ace. so you definately need to take that into account.
 
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nelson is developing a new product as we speak for anti-prolactin. u could drink winny as an anti prolactin on trenA, dont know bout E, never used it before.
 
Doesn't having a kid change everything. Glad your able to get back to it. At the three month mark things slow down
 
wait 15 years Glad. if your not a fat sack of trailer trash crap still eatin greasy burgers and marshmellow cream you will get to train wit yo boy. then life will be great for ya. kid could be a monstar
 
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