Does The Testosterone Increase From Clomiphene/Tamox Cause The Same Hair Loss As AAS?

[mickey224]

If the point of most AAS is to raise testosterone, then won't Clomiphene (Clomid) have the same effect on hair as many AAS?

I was thinking of using Clomid or Tamoxifen long term for libido, but I need to know if I need to take finasteride and minoxidil to counteract the side effects of the resulting testosterone increase.

 

[Jack steel]

This is not a great idea bro. I recommend hcg and an AI. Tamoxifen can kill sex drive too from what I've heard. Also AAS doesn't boost testosterone, it replaces it. I'd suggest hcg and forma stanzol perhaps

 

[mickey224]

Re: Does The Testosterone Increase From Clomiphene/Tamox Cause The Same Hair Loss As

This is not a great idea bro. I recommend hcg and an AI. Tamoxifen can kill sex drive too from what I've heard. Also AAS doesn't boost testosterone, it replaces it. I'd suggest hcg and forma stanzol perhaps

I was just using tamoxifen as an example. I was going to use clomiphene. That being said, you didn't really answer my question.

I'm making the assumption here that the testosterone increased by clomiphene as the same muscle building effects as testosterone taken by injection. Is that incorrect?

 

[Mason Kray]

Hair loss is not one of the listed side effects of Clomid use. I've put an article below about Clomid which will give you more information on it.


Clomid Male Infertility Treatments – What You Need to Know

What are Clomid male infertility treatments? Anyone who is navigating the road of infertility probably recognizes Clomid as a treatment for women who have a difficulty ovulating. But the fact is that this unlikely treatment is also common for men who have infertility related to sperm quality and motility. Here’s your guide to Clomid for men:

Clomid makes more swimmers.

Low sperm count is a common cause of male infertility. In fact, there is a laundry list of reasons a man might have fewer swimmers than normal: injury to the testicles, hormonal problems, medications, smoking, and alcohol abuse, just to name a few. Men who’ve had vasectomy reversals may also experience low sperm counts.

Some reproductive specialists prescribe an oral medication called Clomid, also known as Clomiphene Citrate, to stimulate the pituitary gland to increase production of the hormones that manufacture testosterone.

Clomid makes swimmers stronger.

Even if a man has a normal sperm count, he might still have fertility issues if the sperm have what doctors call poor motility, or a reduced ability to travel to the egg. Medications, alcohol abuse, nutritional deficiencies, hormone issues, and genetic defects are some of the known culprits.

Fertility experts believe Clomid can boost the ability of sperm to complete their journey from ejaculation to fertilization.

The 411 on Clomid treatments for men.

Clomid male infertility treatments involve taking a pill once a day for about 3 to 6 months. If it’s being used to boost sperm production, the goal will be to reach 20 million or more happily-moving swimmers per ejaculation. Conventional medical thought is that if Clomid doesn’t stimulate sperm production within a few months, it is probably not the right treatment for that patient.

Once you start taking Clomid, your doctor will order regular semen analysis to find out if the drug is effective. Some health care professionals may also order testosterone tests to see if this vital fertility hormone is being stimulated.

Like many medical options, Clomid can cause side effects including temporary blurred vision, weight gain, or breast tenderness. There’s another possible side effect that can be rather embarrassing for men: breast enlargement. Talk to your doctor about the potential for all Clomid side effects.

Does Clomid for men work?

Overall, the success rate for treating male infertility with drugs is lower than the success rate for women. For example, experts expect about 20-25% of men on fertility drugs to fertilize their partner. One study found that a combination of Clomid male infertility treatments and the antioxidant vitamin E boosted sperm count and mobility. And, ultimately, 37% of the partners of the men who took the combination became pregnant, while only 13% of partners with men taking a placebo became pregnant.

Ultimately, the only way to know for sure if Clomid is your fertility solution is to talk to a reproductive specialist. Clomid male infertility treatments may be just what your body needs to start down the path toward conception.

 

[doublebicep]

Re: Does The Testosterone Increase From Clomiphene/Tamox Cause The Same Hair Loss As

Mickey224 - You are correct. Natural test has the same impact on your hair as injectable, oral or transdermal test if you have the MPB gene. It coverts to DHT which causes hairless through a process of miniaturization. Clomid does cause hair loss.

 

[mickey224]

Re: Does The Testosterone Increase From Clomiphene/Tamox Cause The Same Hair Loss As

Hair loss is not one of the listed side effects of Clomid use. I've put an article below about Clomid which will give you more information on it.

Actually- this is only about fertility. I'm curious about using Clomid long-term for increasing testosterone for:

1. muscle building effects
2. libido and erectile dysfunction

 

[El Hefe]

Clomid will raise test levels, but nowhere near the level of an AAS/Test cycle. So their effect on your hairline would not be the same.

 

[mickey224]

Re: Does The Testosterone Increase From Clomiphene/Tamox Cause The Same Hair Loss As

Clomid will raise test levels, but nowhere near the level of an AAS/Test cycle.

Do you have sources that can offer a comparison?

 

[Jbranken]

Re: Does The Testosterone Increase From Clomiphene/Tamox Cause The Same Hair Loss As

I was just using tamoxifen as an example. I was going to use clomiphene. That being said, you didn't really answer my question.

I'm making the assumption here that the testosterone increased by clomiphene as the same muscle building effects as testosterone taken by injection. Is that incorrect?

The raise in test from clomid will only be temporary and wont be anywhere near the levels achieved on cycle so don't expect "muscle building effects".

A raise in dht whether its from endogenous or exogenous elevations could speed up the hair loss process in those prone to mpb. Of course if the elevation is endogenous then the rapidness of hair loss won't be nearly as dramatic because you can't naturally reach the levels that are achievable with exogenous hormones.

 

[mickey224]

Re: Does The Testosterone Increase From Clomiphene/Tamox Cause The Same Hair Loss As

The raise in test from clomid will only be temporary and wont be anywhere near the levels achieved on cycle so don't expect "muscle building effects".

A raise in dht whether its from endogenous or exogenous elevations could speed up the hair loss process in those prone to mpb. Of course if the elevation is endogenous then the rapidness of hair loss won't be nearly as dramatic because you can't naturally reach the levels that are achievable with exogenous hormones.

Can you refer to any numbers that show the test obtained by high-dose clomiphene compared to 200mg injections test/week?

(Damn and I just bought 90 days of clomiphene while I was in Mexico!)