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MattTheSkywalker
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posted May 11, 2000 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Bros,

From what I understand, no legal rulings have been made on the Napster issue.

In other words, it is not currently a violation of any laws to post music on the Net, and Napster has disclaimers that say "Napster is not responsible for unauthorized distribution..."

In other words, Napster claims to only be there to allow people to listen to each other's songs once uploaded. Their disclaimer should protect them from legal trouble.

Metallica's issue is only with the unauthorized downloading of their songs. So on what legal grounds do they have a right to demand anything of Napster?

Matt

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Platinum
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posted May 12, 2000 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Platinum   Click Here to Email Platinum     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 53840868
Copyright Violation. They wrote the shit...they own the shit. Plain and simple, don't convulute it with stupid questions.

Fuck You

Platinum

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted May 12, 2000 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Platinum,

That's deep. You're really smart.

But if you buy it at a store, you own it. And it's PERFECTLY LEGAL to upload shit on the web on your own site, or another site like Napster.

The questionable behavior comes in when you download it. Napster isn't software, and you don't need Napster to download it. I could put Metallica (or any file) on a site and it could be downloaded. Napster can't stop people from downloading things.

But a listener site is not illegal.

Platinum, I realize you may be handicapped upstairs by genetic shortcomings. But if you don't know what you're talikng about, shut the fuck up.

Matt

[This message has been edited by MattTheSkywalker (edited May 12, 2000).]

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starrdog
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posted May 12, 2000 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrdog   Click Here to Email starrdog     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, napster lost a preliminary hearing - though nothing is settled yet. Here's a link:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/000509-000017.html

And here's a link to the napster clone "metallicster" that will be used only for sharing Metallica specific media.
http://metallicster.freeservers.com/

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Platinum
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posted May 12, 2000 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Platinum   Click Here to Email Platinum     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 53840868
When you buy a CD in a store you own the CD. Look at the copyright. You do not own the material ON THE CD. You simply own a little round disc that has the info on it. If you had a law degree or could do some research you might know this. YOU DO NOT OWN THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY OF SOMEONE ELSE. How's that for an intelligent answer.

Platinum

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TheBadGuy
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posted May 12, 2000 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheBadGuy     Edit/Delete Message
BOO HOO, were metallica and we dont have enough money already so were gonna sue everyone who doesnt want to pay for our washed up pathetic rock. Fuck metallica thats all i have to say. They were good in the 80's, they suck balls now.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted May 12, 2000 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Once again,

Owning a CD doesn't give you rights to the intellectual proprty on it. But it does give you the right to upload it on to a web site. And it is OK for other people to listen to it on the Web.

Downloading it is in question. But Napster doesn't download it, all they do is provide a vehicle for it to be posted.

Any web site could do this. Check out Metallicster. I could put stuff on my web site for downloading.

There is no legal precedent for this. It is still being decided. THAT IS WHY Metallica has no right to ban anyone from anything YET.

Matt

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got big?
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posted May 17, 2000 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for got big?   Click Here to Email got big?     Edit/Delete Message
Platinum, intelligent response, you also fucked up yodas quote, it goes "Try not, do or do not, there is no try"

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