my love/hate of pct sticky's

[onetimer]

I'm going with the basic test e 10 week @ 400mg/week cycle.. I've read atleast 10 different pct stickeys on all different sites and it seems the more i research the more confused i get now.

For example some say clomid 2 weeks after last pin is all thats needed for such a basic cycle. on the other hand i've read that HCG should be used for last few weeks of cycle along with arimidex or aromasin to control estrogen AND then pct with clomid. some even say hcg on cycle and then with pct aswell.. soo i'm very confused..

I'm 22 6'3 195 10%bf been working out for 6 years. been on high protein/calorie diet for a while now but need to break the high metabolism because the diet doesn't seem to be doing much anymore. (gained 15lbs)

so to sum up my confusion:
1. Do i need HCG for such a basic cycle? if so how much and when? on cycle/post cycle/both?

2. If taking HCG I'll need anti e like arimidex correct? if so how much?(i know aromasin is better but cant get it)

3. For PCT is clomid all i need? what about nolva or arimidex pct aswell?

I know these questions have been touched on many times on the forum but its so confusing reading one thing and thinking your set for pct and then a second later what you've read is contradicted by someone else

anyways thanks in advance
(i know the sponsers have good pct stacks available but i wanna keep with this)

 

[Primordial Performance]

I'm going with the basic test e 10 week @ 400mg/week cycle.. I've read atleast 10 different pct stickeys on all different sites and it seems the more i research the more confused i get now.

For example some say clomid 2 weeks after last pin is all thats needed for such a basic cycle. on the other hand i've read that HCG should be used for last few weeks of cycle along with arimidex or aromasin to control estrogen AND then pct with clomid. some even say hcg on cycle and then with pct aswell.. soo i'm very confused..

I'm 22 6'3 195 10%bf been working out for 6 years. been on high protein/calorie diet for a while now but need to break the high metabolism because the diet doesn't seem to be doing much anymore. (gained 15lbs)

so to sum up my confusion:
1. Do i need HCG for such a basic cycle? if so how much and when? on cycle/post cycle/both?

2. If taking HCG I'll need anti e like arimidex correct? if so how much?(i know aromasin is better but cant get it)

3. For PCT is clomid all i need? what about nolva or arimidex pct aswell?

I know these questions have been touched on many times on the forum but its so confusing reading one thing and thinking your set for pct and then a second later what you've read is contradicted by someone else

anyways thanks in advance
(i know the sponsers have good pct stacks available but i wanna keep with this)

Using hCG during the cycle is the right way to go. (using hCG after a cycle is a less efficient old school practice)

1. Yes, start hCG 2 weeks into the cycle, and quit it with your last TE shot. Use 250iu 2x a week.

2. Take .25 arimidex ED during the cycle

3. Don’t take arimidex for PCT. Use the Testosterone Recovery Stack, or use Clomid at 25mg/day for 6 weeks if money is tight and you don’t care about its possible side effects.

-Pp

 

[bw1]

Using hCG during the cycle is the right way to go. (using hCG after a cycle is a less efficient old school practice)

1. Yes, start hCG 2 weeks into the cycle, and quit it with your last TE shot. Use 250iu 2x a week.

2. Take .25 arimidex ED during the cycle

3. Don’t take arimidex for PCT. Use the Testosterone Recovery Stack, or use Clomid at 25mg/day for 6 weeks if money is tight and you don’t care about its possible side effects.

-Pp

Nice

 

[needtogetaas]

Using hCG during the cycle is the right way to go. (using hCG after a cycle is a less efficient old school practice)

1. Yes, start hCG 2 weeks into the cycle, and quit it with your last TE shot. Use 250iu 2x a week.

2. Take .25 arimidex ED during the cycle

3. Don’t take arimidex for PCT. Use the Testosterone Recovery Stack, or use Clomid at 25mg/day for 6 weeks if money is tight and you don’t care about its possible side effects.

-Pp

PP knows his shit.

 

[hurricane]

i am about to do a 12 week test sus/anavar cycle .. do u guys think i can get away with an all natural pct? i have only used novla/clomid before... if so what would be the best natural pct?

 

[Primordial Performance]

i am about to do a 12 week test sus/anavar cycle .. do u guys think i can get away with an all natural pct? i have only used novla/clomid before... if so what would be the best natural pct?

The Sustain Alpha, Toco-8 and EndoAmp in the Testosterone Recovery Stack will have you covered for PCT. However, you will still need to use the hCG on cycle to preserve testicular function and make PCT smooth sailing.

Unless you're trying to avoid the side's from SERMs, you can stack a low dose of clomid or nolva with the Testosterone Recovery Stack -- which will help speed up recovery even more.

-Pp

 

[Nelson Montana]

I think dex (and aromasan) works very well for PCT. Sometimes low dose Clomid is worse than high dose because it isn't enough to compete with estro receptors and just adds additional e. Clomid is chancy.

And although I've always recommended Sustain , UNLEASHED is essential for lowering SHBG which is the key to quick recovery.

 

[2evil]

PP, I'm still working out my first cycle at 33 and likely won't begin it until Sept/ Oct. but I'm leaning toward this an all test cycle of Test E or C @ 250 mg per week (possibly ramping up to 400 mg depending on how I react) for 10-12 weeks.

Would you recommend the same treatment on cycle and PCT? What would the "low dose" of nolva look look like? I'm thinking I may avoid clomid.

Thanks in advance.

 

[onetimer]

Thanks for the info PP

about the clomid though some say start with 100mg or so and reduce dose over time is that necessary?

 

[Primordial Performance]

Thanks for the info PP

about the clomid though some say start with 100mg or so and reduce dose over time is that necessary?

No, it will only promote side-effects. Just stick with 25mg/day for the 6 weeks.

-Pp