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Here it goes ! 1st Cycle

pumpitupmoo

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Ok after reading A LOT on this website i finally decided to post this 1st cycle for you guys to critique :)

Background :
Ive been training seriously for 3 years. I got my diet and cardio routines on track. I eat 6 times a day for about 2500 calories ( i know its not that much but im trying to cut bf % ) with 25-30 mins of cardio every day of the week.

Personal Info :
5'9" 220 pounds 13 % bf 22 years old


Goals :
I would like to add a few pound of lean muscle on my body while reducing my bf% i know thats what everyone wants but heh its nice to have dreams. Being already pretty big for my height i would rather lose the bf then add more pounds. Im trying to keep the water down and bloating also if possible.

Sample 8 weeks Cycle :

250 mg of Testosterone Enanthate per week (1 - 8)
50 mg of Oral Winstrol Evey Day (1 - 8 )

PCT :

10 mg of Arimidex per day (3 weeks)
250 iu of HCG twice a week (3 weeks)


So please add anything or change anything you feel is wrong thanks :)
 
the guy is 5'9" 220. how much natty you think he has left in him? guys on here are using gear before htey even reach 200 and taller than him. no argument just my .02
 
I think its a decent cycle but i hate running winstrol for that long. maybe shorten it up to the last 6 weeks or something? just my .02 as well.
 
10mgs of Arimidex per day ??? I hope like HELL that is a typo...What a Horrible PCT.

HCG should be run DURING your cycle @250-500iu per week to prevent total shutdown...If one uses and AI correctly during a cycle they sure as shit do not need one during PCT. This is a horrible myth that was started by internet "Guru's". Contrary to popular belief{Well online anyways....Not the medical community}

When one comes of a cycle, Testosterone levels quickly drop to hypogonadal levels and along with it estrogen drops as well. If your estrogen is normal/low at the beginning of your PCT then adding an AI during your PCT will drive your estrogen even lower and hinder recovery. It could very well also have adverse side effects on your Thyroid as well. In which your HPTA will then be a skipping record until this problem is fixed.

IMO personal opinion one should use SERMS{Clomid/Nolvadex} as the backbone of any PCT...along with maybe some OTC pct items such as Dermacrine, or perhaps Unleashed.
 
muscleup said:
10mgs of Arimidex per day ??? I hope like HELL that is a typo...What a Horrible PCT.

HCG should be run DURING your cycle @250-500iu per week to prevent total shutdown...If one uses and AI correctly during a cycle they sure as shit do not need one during PCT. This is a horrible myth that was started by internet "Guru's". Contrary to popular belief{Well online anyways....Not the medical community}

When one comes of a cycle, Testosterone levels quickly drop to hypogonadal levels and along with it estrogen drops as well. If your estrogen is normal/low at the beginning of your PCT then adding an AI during your PCT will drive your estrogen even lower and hinder recovery. It could very well also have adverse side effects on your Thyroid as well. In which your HPTA will then be a skipping record until this problem is fixed.

IMO personal opinion one should use SERMS{Clomid/Nolvadex} as the backbone of any PCT...along with maybe some OTC pct items such as Dermacrine, or perhaps Unleashed.

Agreed! Clomid or Nolovadex for PCT bro. Maybe add some Dermacrine alpha for libido but I don't know why I see people using Arimidex for pct.
 
levi8599 said:
the guy is 5'9" 220. how much natty you think he has left in him? guys on here are using gear before htey even reach 200 and taller than him. no argument just my .02

his age, not his current height and weight dictates if he is programmed to grow 2 inches (height) when he is 23
 
eddymerckx said:
his age, not his current height and weight dictates if he is programmed to grow 2 inches (height) when he is 23

Only an X-ray can determine for certain to see if his epiphyseal plates are closed or are still open.

Get one, and do it son. Have fun.
 
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