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dermacrine sustain for pct-whats the deal?

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cadey

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so im about to order some derma sus. i plan on replacing the nolv and clomid with it. is it sufficient to do this. i will run hcg for 10 days after cycle and derma sus for 4 weeks 5 pumps a day. anyone else tried a pct like this and how did it compare to a normal pct like hcg nolv and clomid?
 
 
Primordial Performance said:
Sustain would help.

Are you on cycle right now or in PCT - post cycle therapy - ?

-Pp
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starting PCT this sat. I have never run HCG as a part of a cycle or post cycle, I just depended on the "normal" PCT course (clomid and nolva) and time to get the boys back to size. From what I understand, its a little too late to get a hold of and start HCG for this cycle.
 
Derma Sustain can take the place of clomid or nolva, but not hCG.

If your cycle was any longer than 6 weeks I suggest you get some hCG now and shoot it at 500iu once a week for atleast a few weeks.

-Pp
 
Im writing some “PCT basics” and “Advanced PCT protocol” articles, so hopefully I will be able to get these posted as stickies… and make things a bit clearer for you guys trying to plan a cycle w/ PCT.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Im writing some “PCT - post cycle therapy - basics” and “Advanced PCT protocol” articles, so hopefully I will be able to get these posted as stickies… and make things a bit clearer for you guys trying to plan a cycle w/ PCT.

-Pp
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The stickies would be a great idea :)
 
cadey said:
so im about to order some derma sus. i plan on replacing the nolv and clomid with it. is it sufficient to do this. i will run HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - for 10 days after cycle and derma sus for 4 weeks 5 pumps a day. anyone else tried a PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - like this and how did it compare to a normal PCT - post cycle therapy - like HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - nolv and clomid?
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I used it during my last post cycle therapy after coming off of one hell of a heavy cycle.I used H'C'G' immediately after my last shot of testosterone enanthate(10 days straight @500ius a day),and waited 10.5 days before I started my dermacrine sustain use(ran for an entire month)but I also started clomid @50mgs a night also for a few weeks.it blew my fucking mind,I had absolutely no size or strength losses at all........never once 'crashed' either.one things for damn sure dermacrine sustain kept my sex drive intact and good to go.

now I wouldn't even contemplate a post cycle therapy without it,that's how strongly I believe in the product.
 
hyp1 said:
I used it during my last post cycle therapy after coming off of one hell of a heavy cycle.I used H'C'G' immediately after my last shot of testosterone enanthate(10 days straight @500ius a day),and waited 10.5 days before I started my dermacrine sustain use(ran for an entire month)but I also started clomid @50mgs a night also for a few weeks.it blew my fucking mind,I had absolutely no size or strength losses at all........never once 'crashed' either.one things for damn sure dermacrine sustain kept my sex drive intact and good to go.

now I wouldn't even contemplate a post cycle therapy without it,that's how strongly I believe in the product.
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sounds good bro:)
 
My experience with Dermacrine Sustain was fantastic. I used it for pct from my last cycle which was a test e @ 600mg ew for 20 wks. I used to use clomid for pct but now I say "FUK THAT STUFF!" I should have used hcg during cycle but I didn't. I used it after cycle at 500iu's for 10 days. Then I started the sustain. I've said this a thousand times and will probably say it another thousand times, sustain is the shit! I had absolutely NO CRASH feeling, NO loss of strength or size (well maybe a few pounds in water) and my sex drive was through the roof! I even felt like I was on again at different times. Clomid will NEVER be used by this bro again. Sustain should be the new standard for test pct, PERIOD! All the skeptics out there should just try it once and you will see what I mean. I was one of the skeptics and I was also a die hard clomid supporter. Then I figured I might as well just try the stuff. I had this idea in the back of my mind that no topical product could do what a pill could do. I was VERY mistaken. This stuff felt like it started working in days. After about 2 weeks my girlfriend was shocked at the size of my "loads". Peter North aint got shit on me!! and I owe it all to Dermacrine Sustain. I hope I've made my point. Good luck bro!

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mrribbit said:
My experience with Dermacrine Sustain was fantastic. I used it for PCT - post cycle therapy - from my last cycle which was a testosterone enanthate @ 600mg ew for 20 wks. I used to use clomid for PCT - post cycle therapy - but now I say "FUK THAT STUFF!" I should have used HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - during cycle but I didn't. I used it after cycle at 500iu's for 10 days. Then I started the sustain. I've said this a thousand times and will probably say it another thousand times, sustain is the shit! I had absolutely NO CRASH feeling, NO loss of strength or size (well maybe a few pounds in water) and my sex drive was through the roof! I even felt like I was on again at different times. Clomid will NEVER be used by this bro again. Sustain should be the new standard for test PCT - post cycle therapy - , PERIOD! All the skeptics out there should just try it once and you will see what I mean. I was one of the skeptics and I was also a die hard clomid supporter. Then I figured I might as well just try the stuff. I had this idea in the back of my mind that no topical product could do what a pill could do. I was VERY mistaken. This stuff felt like it started working in days. After about 2 weeks my girlfriend was shocked at the size of my "loads". Peter North aint got shit on me!! and I owe it all to Dermacrine Sustain. I hope I've made my point. Good luck bro!

:artist:
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Thank God for E.F. otherwise I'm sure I never would've heard about Dermacrine Sustain...it sounds like one of bodybuilding's best kept secret. I'm ordering in 6 days I'm so excited!
 
Cal_21 said:
Thank God for E.F. otherwise I'm sure I never would've heard about Dermacrine Sustain...it sounds like one of bodybuilding's best kept secret. I'm ordering in 6 days I'm so excited!
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you will be pleasantly surprised at how well it works bro,make no doubt about that :)
 
Cal_21 said:
Thank God for E.F. otherwise I'm sure I never would've heard about Dermacrine Sustain...it sounds like one of bodybuilding's best kept secret. I'm ordering in 6 days I'm so excited!
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Yeah bro you're gonna love it. Keep us posted on your progress bro! I already know that it's all going to be positive stuff!
 
i just got done using sustain after a fairly light cycle.... i'm extremely happy with the product except for one thing it made me break out real bad! i had no acne problems at all while on cycle or in past cycles.... but the sustain caused a major break out..... (PP... is there anything to prevent this?.... i know it's probly just my own skins reaction to the product.)
 
cmalley12 said:
i just got done using sustain after a fairly light cycle.... i'm extremely happy with the product except for one thing it made me break out real bad! i had no acne problems at all while on cycle or in past cycles.... but the sustain caused a major break out..... (PP... is there anything to prevent this?.... i know it's probly just my own skins reaction to the product.)
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I suppose acne is possible with a testosterone/androgen increase.

Did you just have this reaction on the area of application? Were you shaving the area or using any other skin products?

-Pp
 
hyp1 said:
I used it during my last post cycle therapy after coming off of one hell of a heavy cycle.I used H'C'G' immediately after my last shot of testosterone enanthate(10 days straight @500ius a day),and waited 10.5 days before I started my dermacrine sustain use(ran for an entire month)but I also started clomid @50mgs a night also for a few weeks.it blew my fucking mind,I had absolutely no size or strength losses at all........never once 'crashed' either.one things for damn sure dermacrine sustain kept my sex drive intact and good to go.

now I wouldn't even contemplate a post cycle therapy without it,that's how strongly I believe in the product.
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good to know...
 
One more vote for Sustain! It did better (for me) than any clo-mid or no-lva P C T I've done in the past.... and no crash! I recommend it anyone, especially those not happy with the conventional stuff.
 
When i used the sustain i was 2 weeks out with no acne at all.... but about 3-4 days into the sustain i started breaking out on my chest, tri's and back.... the acne was def not caused by shaving or anything... i think it may have just been a reaction with my skin since no one else has mentioned this???....
 
cmalley12 said:
When i used the sustain i was 2 weeks out with no acne at all.... but about 3-4 days into the sustain i started breaking out on my chest, tri's and back.... the acne was def not caused by shaving or anything... i think it may have just been a reaction with my skin since no one else has mentioned this???....
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we have had some people get some acne but not a lot from it...I must also say pct is most often when people get acne from there cycles.
 
cmalley12 said:
When i used the sustain i was 2 weeks out with no acne at all.... but about 3-4 days into the sustain i started breaking out on my chest, tri's and back.... the acne was def not caused by shaving or anything... i think it may have just been a reaction with my skin since no one else has mentioned this???....
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When did you order the sustain?

-Pp
 
I am very tempted to try this stuff PCT for a 12 week low dose(250mg) test cycle. Will be using HCG every week(500) to keep the balls big so I am hoping with dermacrine sustain there will be a smooth hand over in PCT and back to normal etc.
 
rockstar6181 said:
I am very tempted to try this stuff PCT - post cycle therapy - for a 12 week low dose(250mg) test cycle. Will be using HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - every week(500) to keep the balls big so I am hoping with dermacrine sustain there will be a smooth hand over in PCT and back to normal etc.
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Yeah bro, most everyone who has used the Sustain has said it made PCT a breeze... keep us updated on your progress.

-Pp
 
I love Derma Sustain and PP!! Can't forget Needto for turning me on to it!

Last cycle was 14 or 15 weeks (can't remember) 500mg/week Sustanon for duration, 3 weeks 40mg/day DBol at beginnining and 7 weeks of 50mg Tren A and Winstrol at end of cycle.

PCT: 500iu HCG for 10 days following last Sustranon shot,
5 weeks of 6 pumps Derma Sustain/ED starting 18 days after last Sustanon shot ,
and started 3 or 4 weeks of Clomid @ 25mg/ED at same time as Derma.

Feel great w/ minimal size or strength loss and NO libido loss!! Best I've ever felt after PCT, and this was the heaviest cycle I've run.

Good Luck.
 
JimBoy said:
I love Derma Sustain and PP!! Can't forget Needto for turning me on to it!

Last cycle was 14 or 15 weeks (can't remember) 500mg/week Sustanon for duration, 3 weeks 40mg/day Dianabol - methandrostenolone - at beginnining and 7 weeks of 50mg trenbolone A and Winstrol at end of cycle.

PCT - post cycle therapy - : 500iu HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - for 10 days following last Sustranon shot,
5 weeks of 6 pumps Derma Sustain/ED starting 18 days after last Sustanon shot ,
and started 3 or 4 weeks of Clomid @ 25mg/ED at same time as Derma.

Feel great w/ minimal size or strength loss and NO libido loss!! Best I've ever felt after PCT, and this was the heaviest cycle I've run.

Good Luck.
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Thanks good to hear bro.

-Pp
 
No disrespect intended, but I dont think I could ever astray from compounds that are tried and proved to help raise natural test production. EX: Nolvadex, clomid, arimidex... Post cycle therapy to me is just something too important to wing it with a product that is talked up by a few "good bros".

Thats just me though...
 
makaveli25 said:
i ran clomid and aromasin but i included derma sustain.. i like my balls to much to trust just one otc product
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Same... I just get this vibe like the AIFM days where every body swears by it then it just goes away? Hmm...
 
Cryptlord said:
No disrespect intended, but I dont think I could ever astray from compounds that are tried and proved to help raise natural test production. EX: Nolvadex, clomid, arimidex... Post cycle therapy to me is just something too important to wing it with a product that is talked up by a few "good bros".

Thats just me though...
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A few good bro's lol you're kidding right. When I do a search I get 17 pages of threads with guys using it. Its far far far more then "just a few good bro's" I will gladly take the time to make a list and I bet its way way wya more then you are
trying to make it.

any way to each his own. A lot of people also like to use it with something else.
Ether way its a great products.


btw aifm was not for pct never was never will be.
 
Cryptlord said:
No disrespect intended, but I dont think I could ever astray from compounds that are tried and proved to help raise natural test production. EX: Nolvadex, clomid, arimidex... Post cycle therapy to me is just something too important to wing it with a product that is talked up by a few "good bros".

Thats just me though...
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To some guys clomid and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - are not so “tried and true”… but more “tried and failed”…

Sustain is just an alternative that happens to be better for your overall health compared to typical SERMs like Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - and clomid. Alot of guys have had great success with Sustain and that counts for something IMO.

I’m sure guys still use AIFM since it’s a decent aromatase inhibitor, but it’s no longer a hot topic on Elite because AF no longer sponsors here – but that doesn’t mean the product never worked.

-Pp
 
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