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Benoit! only test in his system

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:) no other roids in his system :)

end of the witch hunt

I know I have not posted in almost 6 months, thought this was worth it.
 
EDIT FOX NEWS:

Vertigo said:
Medical Examiner didn't disclose Benoit's actual testosterone level, only his T/E ratio, which was 59:1.


yes he did, it was 275 mcg per ml or less

he CLEARLY stated that Benoit may have been on HRT for a Legitimate medical condition; he made that clear and it was awesome.

He said the level was indicative of a Therapuetic dose for HRT

We should use this FACT against the Witch Hunter Media
 
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st8grad said:
Let the speculation begin on if he was on some "un-testable" compounds.
actually that medical examiner is one of the best. the speculation will come from totally ignorant people.

While I do not care to call steroids safe, I have not ever seen a case of roidrage ever. I may get tense, and I'll be honest, I am a total bastard, but usually on cycle, I am the most congenial son of a bitch this side of the nut house.

CNN is acting semi-responsibly saying that steroids are not to blame and roidrage is not all it is cracked up to be, then they switch to eddie guerro and talk about health effects.
 
taste-icles said:
actually that medical examiner is one of the best. the speculation will come from totally ignorant people.

While I do not care to call steroids safe, I have not ever seen a case of roidrage ever. I may get tense, and I'll be honest, I am a total bastard, but usually on cycle, I am the most congenial son of a bitch this side of the nut house.

CNN is acting semi-responsibly saying that steroids are not to blame and roidrage is not all it is cracked up to be, then they switch to eddie guerro and talk about health effects.

Would you go as far as to say that some of the health side effects are overblown?
 
st8grad said:
Would you go as far as to say that some of the health side effects are overblown?
Yes I would. Why is it some people smoke little and get lung cancer while others have a hefty habit and live to a ripe old age. How come drugs that actually work have ill-effects on some and the rest lose out. How come simple peanuts kill people? Some people just have genetic defects that get pronounced through some drugs. (my mom is a doctor)

There are many illogical decisions made in the US health industry and by the government.

I used to have bad allergies as a kid and I used stuff called 'seldane' it was fantastic for stopping allergy attacks and letting me breath again, but 10 people died from a heart defect that was magnified because of it, and now the 20million other people that used it have to deal with crappy product now.
 
Xanax and Hydrocodone were also found in his system. Withdraw from both Xanax and Hydrocodone can lead to agressive and violent behavior.
 
heard he was on somas as well. It's not violent behaviors xanax/hydro/soma will cause, but it will cause Severe depression, and who knows what else he was one.. but if anyone looks at how many ww wrestlers have died over the years, it's kinda scary when looking at the names . I remember growing up in the 80's watching wwf and seeing these people who are no longer with us. A lot of these people died from enlarged heart, heart attack, something to do with steroids - or the effects of steroids. I have always believed that steroids in moderation - to enhance the body - make you feel like your 20-25 again, is good for your body, but anything above and beyond where you are looking like Ronnie Coleman is just dangerous.. And on top of it, living in the fast life of wrestling / star - brings in a lot of the negatives like rec drugs..
 
juniorsamples said:
Xanax and Hydrocodone were also found in his system. Withdraw from both Xanax and Hydrocodone can lead to agressive and violent behavior.

I can verify this :evil:
 
sparetire said:
living in the fast life of wrestling / star - brings in a lot of the negatives like rec drugs..
when you get beaten up regularly and damage things like kidneys and liver from blunt force trauma with regularity, you run the risk of them not operating at capacity as well.
 
This is the AP report as published on detnews.com (Detroit News):

DECATUR, Georgia -- Investigators said Tuesday they had found steroids and other drugs in the body of pro wrestler Chris Benoit, who killed his wife and young son last month before hanging himself.

Besides steroids, Benoit's body contained the anti-anxiety drug Xanax and the painkiller hydrocodone, according to a statement from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. The GBI said Benoit tested negative for blood alcohol.

Benoit's wife, Nancy, tested positive for Xanax, hydrocodone and the painkiller hydromorphone.

The son, Daniel Benoit had Xanax in his system, the agency said. The GBI said it could not perform tests for steroids or human growth hormones on the son because of a lack of urine.
 
It just furthers my point about mis-information. We'll never see the retraction on the website.

taste-icles said:
Thety categorized testosterone as a steroid.

CNN had the story live, chances are the AP story was prepped beforehand. They do that a lot, that is why they have so many detractions.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070717/ap_on_re_us/wrestler_dead Note they do not name any steroid, but are very detailed about other drugs in the system.
 
In addition, the time he took and pre-meditation to sedate the family while killing them is not impulsive as the myth of roidrage suggests. Then he placed bibles next to each body.
 
taste-icles said:
actually that medical examiner is one of the best. the speculation will come from totally ignorant people.

While I do not care to call steroids safe, I have not ever seen a case of roidrage ever. I may get tense, and I'll be honest, I am a total bastard, but usually on cycle, I am the most congenial son of a bitch this side of the nut house.

CNN is acting semi-responsibly saying that steroids are not to blame and roidrage is not all it is cracked up to be, then they switch to eddie guerro and talk about health effects.


From what I read, the examiners official statement said that the dosage of test (levels 10 times normal) had no bearing on what transpired, nor could it be concluded that the actions were from steroid use.
 
sshadoww said:
From what I read, the examiners official statement said that the dosage of test (levels 10 times normal) had no bearing on what transpired, nor could it be concluded that the actions were from steroid use.
They keep getting it all wrong. stupid media ZEITGEIST
 
Vertigo said:
Medical Examiner didn't disclose Benoit's actual testosterone level, only his T/E ratio, which was 59:1.


yes he did it was 275 mcg per ml or less

he CLEARLY stated that he may have been on HRT for a Legitimate medical condition he made that clear and it was awesome

He said the level was indicative of a Therapuetic dose for HRT

we should use this FACT against the Witch Hunter Media
 
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OMEGA said:
yes he did it was 275 mg per ml or less

he CLEARLY stated that he may have been on HRT for a Legitimate medical condition he made that clear and it was awesome

He said the level was indicative of a Therapuetic dose for HRT

we should use this FACT against the Witch Hunter Media

Sorry for the lengthy post:

By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer
Tue Jul 17, 10:29 PM ET

DECATUR, Ga. - Pro wrestler Chris Benoit had a steroid and other drugs in his system when he killed his wife and young son last month and hanged himself in the family's home, investigators said Tuesday.

Benoit's body contained 10 times the normal level of testosterone, as well as amounts of the anti-anxiety drug Xanax and the painkiller hydrocodone, authorities said.

The testosterone, a synthetic version of the primary male sex hormone, is considered an anabolic steroid. The state's top medical examiner said it appeared to have been injected shortly before Benoit died.

Dr. Kris Sperry said there was no evidence of any other steroids in the wrestler's body, and nothing to show that steroids played a role in the death of Nancy and Daniel Benoit. He also said the boy appeared to have been sedated when he was asphyxiated, and Benoit's wife had a "therapeutic" level of sedatives in her body.

Sperry said there is no consensus that the use of testosterone can contribute to paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as "roid rage."

"This a question that basically no one knows the answer to," Sperry said. "There is conflicting scientific data as to whether or not testosterone creates mental disorders or leads to outbursts of rage," he said. "There's data that suggests it and other data that refute it."

The Georgia Bureau of Investigation said Chris Benoit tested negative for alcohol. Investigators had been eager to determine whether alcohol was a factor in the killings after 10 empty beer cans were found in the home, as well as an empty wine bottle a few feet from where Benoit hanged himself.

Benoit killed his wife and 7-year-old son, placed Bibles next to their bodies and then hanged himself on the cable of a weight machine. After the slayings, prescription anabolic steroids were found in the family's home, raising questions about whether the drugs played a role in the killings.

Benoit's wife, Nancy, tested positive for Xanax, hydrocodone and the painkiller hydromorphone. Daniel Benoit had Xanax in his system, authorities said. The GBI said it could not perform tests for steroids or human growth hormones on the boy because of a lack of urine.

Nancy Benoit's body had a blood-alcohol level of 0.184 percent, more than twice the level at which Georgia law considers a driver intoxicated. But, Sperry said, that level may have been affected by decomposition.

Federal authorities have charged Chris Benoit's personal physician, Dr. Phil Astin, with improperly prescribing painkillers and other drugs to two patients other than Benoit. He has pleaded not guilty.

Investigators have also raided Astin's office several times since the deaths, seizing prescription records and other documents.

Before he was charged, Astin told the AP he prescribed testosterone for Benoit, a longtime friend, in the past. He would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed when Benoit visited his office June 22, the day authorities believe Benoit killed his wife.

World Wrestling Entertainment last screened Benoit for steroids in April. It said the results released Tuesday were proof Benoit did not test positive for illegal substances.

"All it means is that scientifically, it's now known that sometime between April 10 and when he died, he had treatment with testosterone," said Jerry McDevitt, a WWE attorney. "That's all it establishes."
 
OMEGA said:
yes he did it was 275 mg per ml or less

he CLEARLY stated that he may have been on HRT for a Legitimate medical condition he made that clear and it was awesome

He said the level was indicative of a Therapuetic dose for HRT

we should use this FACT against the Witch Hunter Media


I finally saw the ME on TV, he stated that Benoit's level was 207mcg/L.
Anyone know the conversion from the standard T reporting in ng/dL to mcg/L?


PS. If the values given are accurate and my math is correct.....Benoit's T level would have been 20,700. Someone tell me I wrong...
 
I remember reading a pamphlet back in high school in the 80's that said that steroids make you hear voices.

wtf?? lol
 
Vertigo said:
I finally saw the ME on TV, he stated that Benoit's level was 207mcg/L.
Anyone know the conversion from the standard T reporting in ng/dL to mcg/L?


PS. If the values given are accurate and my math is correct.....Benoit's T level would have been 20,700. Someone tell me I wrong...


ME's report was for T level in Benoit's urine, I wonder how that correlates to blood levels.
 
Vertigo said:
I finally saw the ME on TV, he stated that Benoit's level was 207mcg/L.
Anyone know the conversion from the standard T reporting in ng/dL to mcg/L?


PS. If the values given are accurate and my math is correct.....Benoit's T level would have been 20,700. Someone tell me I wrong...

There is no way of testing his T level that was in his blood at the time of death, they only tested urine which showed elevated metabolites of testosterone,,was benoit on testosterone... yes,,what dose..who knows.
 
We as a people always jump to conclusions and fear what we don't understand. For example "Reefer Madness". The Benoit case made me decide to do a little research on Xanax and it's been reported to cause bouts of "hypo-mania" and "mania", and there was a mention about dangers of administering this medication to depressed individuals because it could increase the risk of suicide. Plus no one in the media is bringing up the fact that plenty of other people have committed the same heinous crime...Others who have never touched AAS. To say steroids killed the Benoit family is taking all of the responsibility off of him. Either way you look at it, he is the murderer not TEST.
 
the so called roid rage is nothing more than a male version of pms. its caused by the same thing, fluxuating hormone levels.
 
he was also using narcotics for pain management/or recreational use which in withdrawl cases can cause manic features and//or exacerbation of pre existing mental illness as someone previous stated,,,,all we can do is speculate on what happened with Mr. Benoit,,a terrible loss for both familly relatives,friends ,and for the millions of fans
 
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