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Centchroman...a non-steroidal, oral BC pill

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I thought you all might be interested in this, since it seems to come up quite often...

I think it would be perfect for my GF, as she's not a big fan of the sides she gets with the pill (though they seem to be minimal with Yasmin), but no doc she has seen thinks she's an appropriate candidate for an IUD... too young, not married.

Check it out... Centchroman

Later...

JJ
 
no sides and you only take it bi-weekly...

can't beat that...

however there are positive aspects of steroidal BC pills, like less acne and bigger boobs, which would surely be missed with the use of this stuff.
 
It sounds like its got a lot of potential, but the data on the website suggests that only two human trials have been done so far. I wouldn't put it in my body until a lot more research had been done and possible long term effects had been studied. :worried:
 
Yes, it's all true. Since that article was published, there have now been several hundreds of thousands of women in India that have used it without any noteworthy side effects. The only reason I can think of why it's not more widely used may be more to do with religious and politcal issues rather than efficacy and convenience. It is, after all, basically an abortion pill, and it wasn't developed or patented to any of the "big player" pharmaceutical companies. However, it has been trialed well enough ( a lot more than two human trials VLC) that if you knew someone in India that could forward some on to you, I would think it an adequate (maybe better) replacement for standard western OCs.
 
??? Try "ormeloxifene", also marketed as Saheli and Choice-7. I think you'll find that, aside from being a low risk abortificant, it also has intriguing potential as a treatment for estrogen receptor positive breast cancer (less toxic than tamoxifen), or even prevention???
 
Damn FDA!

Cumbersome regulatory laws causing problems for export’
By A Correspondent
Kochi

Cumbersome regulatory laws stood in the way of exporting high quality pharmaceutical products being developed in some ‘partner’ countries, according to delegates who attended the three-day international meet on ‘Health commodity security’ held last month.

A number of manufacturers in the partner countries make high quality pharmaceutical products, but there are often trade barriers to their export to other partner countries due to the perception that US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) or European approval were needed, according to Dr Martha Campbell, co-director of the Centre for Entreprenuership in International Health and Development, School of Public Health, University of California.

Allowing commodities to flow through local commercial markets and through public sector services was important to expand the availability of drugs and to enable governments focus their resources on people who need them the most, she said at the meet.

According to G Rajamohan, chairman of the public sector Hindustan Latex Ltd, India had developed the world’s first non-steroidal contraceptive pill ‘centchroman’ after research and clinical trials lasting 22 years. The once-a-week oral pill has been effectively used in the country for the past 10 years. But it has not been exported to other developing countries due to the regulatory laws and non-approval of the drug from the US FDA, he said.

This problem stood in the way of potential life saving developments in the field of microbicides which are badly needed to enable women to protect themselves from HIV infection, Dr Campbell said.

Prof Nick White of the Faculty of Tropical Medicine, Oxford University, pointed out that though half of the recent anti-malaria drugs were highly efficacious, it was beyond the reach of many needy developing nations due to the regulatory process of the US and European countries and blamed the WHO for this.

Delegates also expressed concern at the high cost of medicines in most of the developing countries, making its affordability difficult.

Dr J C lule, executive director, Uganda National Drug Authority and P Nahabwe, head of Economic Monitoring and Evaluation Uganda Population Secretariat, said Uganda spends US$ seven per capita on health and US$ 100,000 per year for treatment of HIV-Aids.

According to the delegates, even the reduction in the cost of aids drugs to around used 190 per month, which was proposed by some multinational companies, only allows about two percent of aids patients gain access to this treatment.

‘Partners’ (Partners in Population and Development) is a Dhaka-based inter-governmental alliance of 16 developing countries. (PTI)

http://www.expresshealthcaremgmt.com/20010831/hospinews8.htm
 
I have never tried this drug. I also did not recommend it to JJ since I knew it was not available on prescription in the US. However it IS easily available elsewhere, and unlike AAS, you will not go to prison if you're caught trying to import it into America. At the worst it will merely get seized.

I don't really know much more. On one level I would think centchroman's predominantly ANTI-estrogenic effect might be a benefit to BB females. On another level I think devices such as Mirena have a much better contraceptive activity. All in all you have to weigh up the potential risks and benefits for yourself. Prevent fertislization with almost certain negative changes in natural hormone levels, or abort very early with possibly favorable changes in hormones.....
 
Why mirena over something total non-hormonal like paragard?

Is it due to the low dose released? If so, can a low dose administered this way (IUD) change ovarian output? I had this question about nuvaring also.
 
JJ said (in no uncertain terms) that IUD was not an option for her. seems that blurp Mirena is even more effective than something like paragard, is even less likely to alter long term fertility, and has negligible impact on hormone levels (compared to nuvaring or OCs). Mirena also often results in shorter, lighter and less frequent periods compared to the longer, heavier periods many women complain about with Paragard. But really they are all good options......all better than any of the OCs in my opinions (except for centchroman of course). JJ just needs to figure out which fits her lifestyle and plans the best. I have to confess I am more than a little curious as to what effect (if any) Centchroman's anti-E activity might have for a precontest diet? Could be a good thing.........
 
Oh, gotcha. Missed the JJ part.

I have a paragard and I'm happy with it all but two days of my cycle. When I ovulate it's like Mittleschmirz on crack. I feel like I'm gonna pass a golf ball. I have an appointment at the end of the month to find out if I have a cyst (or soemthig like that) or if it's just the IUD. What makes Mirena different in terms of being "less likely to alter long term fertility?"

Every month I swear I'm going to have this damn thing removed, but once the storm passes I love it.

Here's my idea: Have some of hubby's sperm frozen, and then a vasectomy. Then if I change my mind, there's always A.I. :lmao:
 
"Have some of hubby's sperm frozen, and then a vasectomy. Then if I change my mind, there's always A.I."............................Now THAT'S intelligent family planning. As an added bonus you can still have his baby even if he gets run over by a bus!

I must confess there is not a lot of direct evidence that Mirena reduces chances of infertility or that Paragrd increases it much. Over a woman's lifetime I suspect that appropriate contraception (including IUCDs) and appropriate choice of partner (to avoid infection) will prevent a lot more infertility that without adequate contraception. Certainly the chances of, say, ectopic preganancy are MUCH lower with IUCDs than without any contraception despite the belief that IUCDs increase chance of ectopic preganancies.....The pressure many doctors put on a childless woman to NOT have an IUCD fitted are, IMHO, ridiculous and unfounded with the proper use of modern devices to women in monogamous sexual relationships.
 
MrStamina said:

In the name of being the board guinea pig (and not biting my fingernails and saying a Hail Mary every time I ovulate), I just placed an order with this site for a 3 month supply. I'm a little annoyed that I can't pay with a credit card, and need to mail a check to India, but at least the prices are very low. I'll keep you all updated.

MS, when you say it has mild anti-estrogenic properties - do you mean it would potentially make shedding estrogenic fat deposits easier when dieting? My glute and thigh adipocytes are my arch nemeses...
 
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Ceebs, I don't know the exact anti-estrogenic activity. That's what I'm curious about. It is clearly more anti-estrogenic than, say, tamoxifen, but all we really know is that it works in the uterus to block estrogen's action (unlike tamoxifen that is actually pro-estrogenic in the uterus). How it will behave in adipocytes is anyone's guess. I hope you'll keep us up-dated.
 
Ceebs said:


In the name of being the board guinea pig (and not biting my fingernails and saying a Hail Mary every time I ovulate), I just placed an order with this site for a 3 month supply. I'm a little annoyed that I can't pay with a credit card, and need to mail a check to India, but at least the prices are very low. I'll keep you all updated.

MS, when you say it has mild anti-estrogenic properties - do you mean it would potentially make shedding estrogenic fat deposits easier when dieting? My glute and thigh adipocytes are my arch nemeses...


Theres three things that can happen from this,,,,

You send a cheque and nothing comes back;
You recieve the pills and it may hurt you very very badly;
or they work perfectly at a good cost....

personally, I find it hard to believe India can produce something like this. With all the anti America crap going on right now be careful. Its very easy to make a website and ask for cheques.

Keep us up to date PLEASE....
 
"I find it hard to believe India can produce something like this"...............That's patentedly absurd. There is no doubt that this drug has been developed and produced in India, and thoroughly tested too. It is a medical and pharmaceutivcal fact. India is an up and coming world leader in the development of new drugs, computer technology and many other high tech products.

"You send a cheque and nothing comes back;
You recieve the pills and it may hurt you very very badly;
or they work perfectly at a good cost...."


This is perfectly true anytime you send money anywhere, including online purchases etc...You are less likely to get ripped of buying a legit pharmaceutical product like this than, say, illegal AAS.

"Its very easy to make a website and ask for cheques."

TRUE. It happens in America with American based websites all the time. You don't need to go overseas to lose money!
 
MrStamina said:
Theres three things that can happen from this,,,,
You send a cheque and nothing comes back;
You recieve the pills and it may hurt you very very badly;
or they work perfectly at a good cost....

Point well taken. I know that someone has to play the doubting thomas here, and I appreciate your concern.

If it's a scam: 1) I'm only out about $20, and 2) it's an awfully elaborate scam. The Centchroman club has pictures of the pills and packaging, and the club webmaster appears to back the site.
 
Whoa!

I had forgotten about this thread and then saw that I had recently gotten Karma from CEEBS from it... glad to see this is up for discussion. Oh, and for the record, I am a guy and was inquiring for my girlfriend.

CEEBS, please keep us all informed...Thanks!

JJ
 
Spatts asked me to post this question for you ladies. Could Centchroman be used to bridge between cycles, for example winny...to prevent the estrogen rebound?
 
I don't think anyone can say yet. It doesn't have any effect on estogen production, it merely anataginizes the estrogen receptor (like Nolvadex but with less estrogenic activity). It might allow your hormones to return to 'normal' with less dramatic symptoms of rebound, but it's pure speculation. Must ask some Indian women who've been on it for a while if they've developed lean thighs! Somehow I don't think so.........
 
MS said:
Somehow I don't think so.........

Thanks MS...Spatts was at work and asked me to post
 
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Good News!

I wrote metabs.com suggesting that they use Paypal to accept payment...saying that I thought a lot more people would feel comfortable doing that than sending a check (since you can dispute Paypal charges if they don't deliver)...and I got a response saying that they will be set up to accept payment via Paypal in about a week...so, I am curious to see how this goes and what people think about the Centchroman now that it should be easier to get...

I do have a question though... as to the action of Centchroman... I have seen it referred to as abortifacient, because its primary means of preventing pregnancy is by preventing implantation, rather than inhibiting ovulation... could anyone (who condones the use of steroidal, oral BC) have a logically consistent view that opposes the morality of Centchroman on the basis that it is purely abortifacient? I mean, don't normal BC pills have an abortifacient aspect to them as well... if the BC fails to inhibit ovulation (which I know it does sometime even when used correctly), and then if sperm were to sneak past the thickened mucous of the uterine lining...isn't the last line of defense for steroidal, oral BC to act as abortifacient? Do steroidal, oral BC pills act abortifacient in the same way as Centchroman, as in preventing implantation? Or do they just make the environment of the womb very hostile to a newly implanted embryo (is that what its called at this point? zygote maybe)... I guess what I am getting at here is that I have often heard pro-lifers attack BC pills because they are abortifacient. However, if the BC pills are abortifacient because they are very early abortion (after implantation), then wouldn't Centrchroman be an even more optimal (from this pro-life standpoint) because implantation will not ever occur? Notice I say "more optimal", not optimal because most Pro-lifers consider life to begin as soon as the sperm and egg meet...

I dunno, maybe I've just had too much coffee...who knows about the abortifacient aspect of oral BC pills in relation to that of Centchroman?

Thanks y'all!

JJ
 
Not yet, but they did notify me that they received my check and had shipped my order a few days ago.
 
I emailed them twice and both times they got back to me with in a couple hours, which is a good sign.
Also, I asked if they have problems with customs and he said they ve never been siezed! not even once!
My girlfriend is ordering some tomorrow..

This is too good to be true.
 
JJFigure said:
I placed an order with genericsplus.com - we'll see!

JJ did you recieve a notice from genericsplus or your b/c yet?

Its been a awhile and you and Jibbi jabba havent said anything for some time now.
 
I received a shipment notice on February 19 - it said I should receive it in 8-14 days. I will let you know as soon as I get it.

Genericsplus.com was very responsive - so far, I'm quite pleased with them. If I actually receive the centroman in 8-14 days, I'll be even happier. :-)
 
I got it! Not bad at all, considering genericsplus.com shipped it on February 19.

Too bad it will be a while before I can start it, since you start it the first day of menstruation. Oh well - I'll keep everyone updated!
 
Thanks for doing the updates JJ (and possibly anyone else taking it). I am very curious about it. Have any of you talked to your GYN about it? I am wondering what they would say. Am I correct in that this is NOT available in the US? Any plans for it to be available in the US any time soon?

Hope it works out well - sounds like a GREAT alternative to the normal BCP.
 
I asked my nurse practitioner about it, and she was interested to learn more. She said she wouldn't discourage me from trying it if I wanted to, but she would encourage me to be very careful about it. The FDA is a bit overcautious at times - things take forever to come through the US - but still, its sort of new territory...not exactly widespread here yet.

I am interested to hear about how it works for everyone who is trying it. My pill is working just fine for me right now, but I am of course interested in putting less hormones into my body.
 
JJFigure said:
I got it! Not bad at all, considering genericsplus.com shipped it on February 19.

Too bad it will be a while before I can start it, since you start it the first day of menstruation. Oh well - I'll keep everyone updated!

Good!
Now I have to wait for the website to come back ......genericsplus.com said it wold be back up in less then a week.

Your lucky JJfigure, let us know everything about it, when you start taking it.
 
Durr, I forgot - thanks to MS for reminding me in this thread: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=216225

Finally received my Centchroman in the mail from Metabs.com, but due to the need to start it on the first day of one's period, I won't be able to give it a whirl for a few more days.

Side note - I went to the gynecologist today for a checkup, she asked me if I was content with my method of birth control, I said I was, and she still all but forced hormonal OC's on me. I walked out with a prescription for Provera, which I politely took from her "in case you change your mind". :rolleyes: I'm a little baffled what her infatuation with OC's is, as she was very enthusiastic about them on my last visit, too.

Out of curiousity, and not because I ever plan on taking it, am I right in assuming that Provera is for all intents and purposes the same as Depo-Provera, only not injectable?
 
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Well, let's face it - our doctors probably don't deal with that many athletic women. I know I'm the only BB type my doctor deals with. For the non-athletic woman, there are advantages to controlling hormonal levels - reduced and regular menstruation, reduced PMS symptoms, etc., are all beneficial aspects of hormonal OC. I loved being on a predictable, 27 day cycle. Now, I'm all over the place - it gets to be a pain in the ass. Plus, that's all our doctors know - they've not had a non-hormonal option outside of the IUD, which they won't prescribe for us non-child bearing women.
 
I think JJ is right - most Doc's don't come into contact with women who are VERY athletic. Even the ones that work out seriously don't do so to the extent of many people at Elite.

And the reason most women like the BCP is the lessened periods, PMS, etc. That, plus a contraceptive, is all they want from a pill. They don't realize what the impact of estrogen, and other hormones are on their body. I was unaware of the inpact of estrogen (and my BCP) was having on my ability to lose BF until a couple years ago. And I have always been well versed in athletics, working out, nutrition, etc....hell, I was a personal trainer too. I had no idea that BCP could help me hold onto BF! So I doubt that your average women knows.
 
I started Centchroman today - finally! I'll keep you guys updated. It should be interesting to see how it's going to impact or not impact my cutting cycle.
 
JJFigure said:
I started Centchroman today - finally! I'll keep you guys updated. It should be interesting to see how it's going to impact or not impact my cutting cycle.

Killer! Keep us updated...
 
Just one question....

How can you tell if its working? The last thing I want right now is a another cute face to feed. lol
 
How do you know any OC is working, for that matter? The pill I purchased is Saheli - here are a couple clinical studies and the failure rates:

Post Marketing Surveillance

Phase I-PMS
No. of Centers 8
No. of Volunteers 793
Dosage 30 mg twice a week for the first 3 months and 30 mg once a week from the fourth month onwards. One center also conducted studies with 60 mg loading dose followed by 36 mg weekly dose


No. of women months of use 8472
No.of method failures 6
No: of patient failures 16

The study conducted that Saheli is safe for contraceptive use among women.



Phase II-PMS


Number of center 1
Number of volunteers 6000
No. of women months of use 12933
No. of failures 3
Side Effects observed Ammenorhea was observed in 0.7% of the cases.

The study concluded that Saheli is a safe and reliable means of contraception.


Phase III-PMS

No. of Centers 3
No. of Volunteers 607
No. of women months of use 5494
No. of patient failures 9
No. Of method failures 15

Saheli was found to be safe as an oral contraceptive among women in this particular study.


Summary of the PMS Studies


Total no. of Method Failures 24
Total No. of Women Months of use 26899
The Pearl Index calculated at the end of the study has been found to be = 1.07.

The study also concluded that the drug is safe for use by women as a contraceptive. The only side effect that has been reported is delayed menstrual cycles. This aspect should be communicated to the user at the time of initiation to ensure better user compliance.

I pulled this from website: http://www.hindlatex.com/mono.html
 
Well, it's been one full week, and the only thing I've noticed is I broke out a little this week - definitely not normal for me. Maybe it's the antiestrogenic property kicking in? Other than that, no problems so far!
 
Another update - I also seem to be retaining water since I started Centchroman. Considering I'm on a very low carb diet during the week, and this is the only thing I've added into my life in the past two weeks, it looks like it's the culprit. My weight loss has also halted since I started taking it, but that's probably from the increased water. I started taking caliper measurements to help me figure out if I'm losing fat or not, and I increased my cardio. I'm going to give it another week to see if my body straightens out; if not, I may have to stop using it until after my competitions.
 
Thanks for this update -- was just hemming and hawing about filling my script at home for 2 chioces the doc gave me or ordering the Centro. Since you seemingly have been holding water, kinda does not make sense for me to go outside the box.

Would be curious as to any other developments you may have. And thanks again for sharing this info-- I am sure there are alot of us it helps.
 
I think I'm going to quit it for a couple of weeks, and see if it's really the culprit. From the literature, it looks like it leaves your system very quickly. If the water retention goes away, I'll stay off until my June comps are finished.
 
I had the same experience with water retention as JJ, and stopped after a week. Didn't even think it worthwhile posting my unspectacular experience in this thread. I'd begun using the sympto-thermic method to track my ovulation before my Centchroman arrived in the mail, and I'm going back to that. Maybe if I ever reach that "fat, bloated, and happy" phase in my relationship, I'll try taking it again...
 
WHAT!!!!????


How can this be? why would it make your body retain water?
I thought it would do the opposite....

HOW CAN THIS BE?

Maybe it just does that in the beginning?

was there any other side effects? Moodiness, low libido etc?
 
Ceebs said:
I'd begun using the sympto-thermic method to track my ovulation before my Centchroman arrived in the mail, and I'm going back to that.

That's what I used for years. Really learned alot about how I work.
 
I woke up everyday, removed my basal thermometer from under my pillow and took my temp....before ever moving a muscle. I charted the temp on an elaborate spreadsheet, that I created in Excel, of course. ;) I also tracked the size/harndess of the cervix and mucus "texture" at first, but after many years, the latter isn't really necessary (or at least I didn't find it to be). It sounds like alot of work, but once it's routine it's not a big deal. Like I said, I learned alot about myself too. I could predict, to the day, how I would feel, what I would weigh, my libido, etc...based on my 34 day cycle. I learned that even though I don't have a period every 34 days, I ovulated twice in 34 days like clockwork. I later used an ovulation test to confirm what the numbers were showing. I thought the whole thing was very interesting.
 
"How can this be? why would it make your body retain water?
I thought it would do the opposite...."

EXACTLY! Imagine my surprise...

I should have guessed it was screwing up something when I broke out - I really never have acne problems. That plus the water retention tells me it's having some impact on my hormones; it may just be a temporary impact, but since I'm 5 weeks out from my first comp, it's not worth finding out right now. When I'm done competing for the year, I'll give it another try.
 
Thanks again to both Ceebs and JJ for sharing your experiences with Centchroman. I am sorry you both had a less than positive experience and I will say I am disappointed by its performance based on what you have said.

My whole premise for coming off of birth control a year and a half or so ago, was to see how much water I would lose, how much bodyfat I could lose and see if I was able to (natty) put on more quality muscle with out it.

Seemingly, I was able to lose water while off, was able to make a small muscular gain....as for bodyfat -- well I lost my breasts once off a few months but overall I cannot say that my bodyfat level made a dramatic drop. Then again, all things considered I did 2 cycles of aas and tried not to worry about the scale too much (since August until Feb).

I hate water bloating.....all in all, I have not really missed being on OCs with the exception of insurance of not getting pregnant.

Again, thanks to both of you for sharing so generously your experiences.
 
JJFigure said:
"How can this be? why would it make your body retain water?
I thought it would do the opposite...."

EXACTLY! Imagine my surprise...

I should have guessed it was screwing up something when I broke out - I really never have acne problems. That plus the water retention tells me it's having some impact on my hormones; it may just be a temporary impact, but since I'm 5 weeks out from my first comp, it's not worth finding out right now. When I'm done competing for the year, I'll give it another try.

Well exactly how much water are we talking about?
I know you re super cut, so was to the point where people looked at you and said "WOW what happened to you"? or just a little water retain.

Also was there any mood changes? Labido, moodiness etc?
 
My definition was blurred - especially in my extremities, and it was kind of screwing up my weight loss schedule. Of course, I'm trying to get much leaner than the normal person, so if your girl isn't trying to cut, I don't know that it would be very noticeable. You could probably also control it with herbal diuretics, but I didn't want to go that route right now. I didn't experience any mood changes, other than freaking out when I stopped dropping weight. :-) I definitely didn't have labido issues either.

Keep in mind everything we've read about this product has been based on Indian women and the results they've had with it. I don't know of that many female Indian bodybuilders - we're probably much more in tune with our bodies and sensitive about suptle changes than they are. I still plan on using it - just not right now. I'm too uptight over this current diet cycle and want to weed out anything that might negatively impact it.
 
My midsection got really squishy. I knew it was water because I'd wake up looking very cut - lower ribs, iliac crest, and abs in view - then by suppertime, when I'd drunk at least a gallon of water throughout the day, you could poke me in the stomach and it would wobble like a waterbed. Very strange effect.
 
this is the first time for me to check this thread for the first time in awhile...

it sucks it made you retain water...

Let us know if you start up again.
 
i know 2 girls that have been taking it, and they say its great as long as they don't get pregnant.

The water is from your period. If you took the pill when you are surpose to start (the first day of your period) the water wieght is from the period and it goes away.

The only problem is the the time it takes to recieve after ordering it. It could take months.

One thing I know for sure is you won't gain wieght like steriodal bc pills.
 
It's ironic that you bumped this, since I just started up again today. My period arrived this morning - FINALLY. Only took 76 days.

So, I will keep everyone updated on how it goes.
 
I've been on centchroman since April '03... switched from Ortho-Cyclen. I have had NO problems on it whatsoever. No bloating, water retention, moodiness, or ANY other side effects. Since I started it I have had a 40 day "monthly" cycle.

Now my only problem is that all of the sites that sold it are down! Luckily when I got it I ordered a years supply, but I think it's the best oral contraceptive ever, and I want more! :) Does anyone know where I can get it now???
 
Well, for those of us who compete, Centchroman is still a gamble. I'll play with it while I'm bulking, but I may very well drop it when I'm cutting. Like I said, we'll see. I don't want anything that might hinder getting to competition level leanness.
 
You can email metabs@yahoo for more.

Does anybody know how long it takes its effect?

How long do you have to wait before you can trash the box of condoms.
 
MrStamina - do you mean [email protected]? I tired it and got an email back from yahoo saying user "metabs" dosen't exist...

As far as how long it takes to work... I was already on the pill prior to switching to centchroman, so it worked right away, for me at least. No problems yet! :)
 
From what I've read, it pretty much takes effect immediately. I'm blanking on the term for this, but you can also use it as a morning after anti-impregnation method in case of emergencies. This leads me to believe you're pretty much good to go once you start taking it.
 
Morning after pill?

How many pills do you have to take the next morning for that to be effective?

If you not having sex every day, maybe its better to only do it this way?
 
I just found a brief mention - it didn't specify how many to take, although again, I assume you'd only take one since this isn't a daily pill but a weekly pill. I know with Alesse, you'd take 5 for a "morning after" emergency type situation.

Personally, if you're having sex weekly or biweekly, I feel you'd be better off just using it as prescribed. Even morning after solutions have been known to fail.
 
So far, so good. I'm back on a normal 35 day menstrual cycle (yah!), and haven't noticed any sides from the Centchroman. I'm currently in a bulking phase, but I'm actually fighting to gain weight on above maintenance kcals, so I don't believe a woman on maintenance level of kcals will have issues with weight gain while using Centchroman. But keep in mind this is purely anecdotal.

I'll continue to use it at least until February; at that point I'll probably drop it for my cutting phase. I don't really want to test out whether or not it may make it more difficult to lose fat during this next cutting phase. :-)
 
We're still doubling up. :-)

I figured I'd wait until after the first three months (the time period you take 2 pills/week) before we try it solo. Better safe than sorry. :-)
 
I'm finally to the point I only have to take 1 pill/week. The only side I experienced is I break out slightly 1-2 days after taking it. I'm curious to see if this still happens on the lower dosage.

Other than that, everything's normal - no extra water retention/bloating; my cycle's back to a normal 35 days, and my libido is its normal, raging self - mainly because I don't get to see my man often enough. :-)
 
MrStamina said:
Morning after pill?

How many pills do you have to take the next morning for that to be effective?

If you not having sex every day, maybe its better to only do it this way?

The morning after pill isn't the type of thing you want to use on a regular basis. You go and get two pills, one to be taken 12 hours after the first. Then in about 3-4 days a period is induced.

They have been known to fail but now the success rate is up to 99.7%. However this is not a BIRTH CONTROL method. It is EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION. So no it's not better to do it this way. The hormones come in extremely high dosages with the morning after pill and are also about 15 dollars per pill - dangerous and expensive.
 
Been ages since this thread was active, but I'm bumping it to see if anyone bites. There's a growing group of women (not necessarily body builders, just fed up with hormonal pills!) using this pill, two online "clubs" and a very active discussion on the Contraception forum of www.aphroditewomenshealth.com. Anyone on this forum still using it? We'd love more input from users!
 
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