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Sheeeeet, tore my pec last night!!!!

ViperHMS

ViperHMS

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Sheeeeet, tore my pec last night!!!! PICS INSIDE

Just when I was getting into a good solid grove again, I tear my pec last night. Was progressing thru my flat bench workout. Warm up with 135, then to 185, then to 225. Next set was to be 265x8. First rep went down paused for a sec or two, then pushed up, no problems, no pain. Second rep I lowered the weight to my chest, paused, pushed maybe 1/2in and wham weight just falls and I feel my pec tear. It was just dead, holy crap did it scare the crap out of me. Thank god there were a few big guys close by that pulled the weight off of me.

It was too late(7pm) to go to a doctors office, so I drove across the street to the urgent care office and after waiting 2hrs finally got to see the doc. What a horrible doc. He didnt even ask me to raise my shirt. He just felt around til i told him where the pain was. After about 2 minutes of him pressing down on different places on my chest he says, yep you probably pulled something or strained a muscle. Here is a script for the pain and some muscle relaxers. Just go home and ice it down, no heat for at least 72hrs. That was it!!! I didnt even see the damage until i got home and finally got my shirt off. Here are the pics

2hrs after
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4hrs after
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This morning 16hrs after
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Anyone feel it might benefit me to try some HGH during the coming months of rehab?
 
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damn!



Bro go asap to get an MRI to assess the true damage.
If its a minir tear then it will heal all the way

if it is completely detached get surgery ASAP even if it costs you
 
Bro, I feel for you. Man alive that looks painful. Are you sure its a pec tear and not a shoulder tear? HGH definitely wouldn't hurt at asbout 2iu's a day. Hope you have a speedy recovery bro.
 
OMEGA said:
damn!



Bro go asap to get an MRI to assess the true damage.
If its a minir tear then it will heal all the way

if it is completely detached get surgery ASAP even if it costs you
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I have an appt. schedueled with a specialist at a sports medicine clininc on Wed. It was the soonest appt. available. I chose to go to the doc in a box last night cause i knew I was going to need something for the pain. That was about all it was good for. I have spent most of last night and today researching the options. If surgery is needed i'm going to take it ASAP. I hope there are no underlying tendons that got torn or detached too.
 
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
Bro, I feel for you. Man alive that looks painful. Are you sure its a pec tear and not a shoulder tear? HGH definitely wouldn't hurt at asbout 2iu's a day. Hope you have a speedy recovery bro.
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I've got pain meds and muscle relaxers so right now the pain is tolerable, but damn that 2hr wait at the doc in a box was full of pain. Gonna spend most of the rest of the day iceing it on and off.

Yes not doubt its a pec tear, i have no pain in the shoulder what so ever. Its mainly the lower part of the pec thats swolen and of course the upper arm.
 
Better push for surgery if it s serious tear

screw those idiots if they say no too.

I have seen guys with BI tears that could have easily been fixed but one asshat doc said no.


If its a serious tear insist on surgery
 
OMEGA said:
Better push for surgery if it s serious tear

screw those idiots if they say no too.

I have seen guys with BI tears that could have easily been fixed but one asshat doc said no.


If its a serious tear insist on surgery
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I hope it is not a serious tear, but if it is and they suggest surgery, I am all for it. The sooner the better.
 
best of luck, you will be back in no time:)

this is a time where once the surgery is donestart running out side or doing cardio daily, that will hold you over till you can start training again.
 
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Sorry to hear about that buddy. The same shit happen to me 5 years ago but it was my right pec and I had the same swelling. I did not go to the Dr. for mine. It healed back up but now I have a indentation between my pec and delt. I no longer flat bench only incline. Are you by chance using fucking creatine? that was the reason for my pec tearing. Fuck that shit.





ViperHMS said:
Just when I was getting into a good solid grove again, I tear my pec last night. Was progressing thru my flat bench workout. Warm up with 135, then to 185, then to 225. Next set was to be 265x8. First rep went down paused for a sec or two, then pushed up, no problems, no pain. Second rep I lowered the weight to my chest, paused, pushed maybe 1/2in and wham weight just falls and I feel my pec tear. It was just dead, holy crap did it scare the crap out of me. Thank god there were a few big guys close by that pulled the weight off of me.

It was too late(7pm) to go to a doctors office, so I drove across the street to the urgent care office and after waiting 2hrs finally got to see the doc. What a horrible doc. He didnt even ask me to raise my shirt. He just felt around til i told him where the pain was. After about 2 minutes of him pressing down on different places on my chest he says, yep you probably pulled something or strained a muscle. Here is a script for the pain and some muscle relaxers. Just go home and ice it down, no heat for at least 72hrs. That was it!!! I didnt even see the damage until i got home and finally got my shirt off. Here are the pics

2hrs after
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4hrs after
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This morning 16hrs after
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Anyone feel it might benefit me to try some HGH during the coming months of rehab?
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OMEGA said:
best of luck, you will be back in no time:)

this is a time where once the surgery is donestart running out side or doing cardio daily, that will hold you over till you can start training again.
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Thanks for all your advice and encouragement!!


That was my plan, still going to hit legs with leg presses, ext's, curls, and calve raises and cycling. I am hating right now that it will be Wed before I can see the specialist because the swelling and brusing are continuing to get worse.
 
BLACKDOOG said:
Sorry to hear about that buddy. The same shit happen to me 5 years ago but it was my right pec and I had the same swelling. I did not go to the Dr. for mine. It healed back up but now I have a indentation between my pec and delt. I no longer flat bench only incline. Are you by chance using fucking creatine? that was the reason for my pec tearing. Fuck that shit.
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Frankly im still in shock and at the moment i'm scared shitless of even thinking about lifting, well benching right now. In time though it will come back.

Thats a negative on the creatine, I ditched creatine back when i was a teenager and have not looked back since. I never really got a much out of it, except dehydration. I just couldnt seem to get enough water down, but at that time I was not that great with diet so I am sure that didnt help. I also didnt like eating spoonfulls of that stuff either.
 
hey man I have been there :)

my pec tear healed 100% now I never bench ever again :artist:

good call on your plan

I would do arms 2 times a week with maybe some side deltoids and trap work included ( shrugs)

I would do legs once a week , and then do cardio on the other days

I would not do any presses for delts or back work do to the nature of the pec ties ins to those opposing muscles.
 
fbodyguy02 said:
Holy crap Viper!!!

That looks like it hurts big time. I wish you a fast recovery.

Are you on cycle?
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Thanks bro, yeah its a PITA but i'm able to manage the pain with perscriptions right now, but i'll be calling the doc soon enough for a refill, he was not very generous with the tabs, just enough to last me about 3-4 days. I'm hoping the bleeding and swelling subside by then cause thats a big part of the pain now.

I am on a cycle right now, just simple though nothing much. On prop EOD @100mg and was finishing up some TBol @ 40-60mg ED. It sucks cause I was just about to finally get to jump back on some Tren for about 8 weeks and really start cutting.

Also looks like I wont be doing any mods to the car anytime soon either. Just ordered a set of new rotors yesterday. FUCK I was thinking about picking up a cam and a set of headers too.

Have you ever been to this guys place before? http://www.spdkilz.com/
Its an awesome site and hes got some great vids.
 
OMEGA said:
hey man I have been there :)

my pec tear healed 100% now I never bench ever again :artist:

good call on your plan

I would do arms 2 times a week with maybe some side deltoids and trap work included ( shrugs)

I would do legs once a week , and then do cardio on the other days

I would not do any presses for delts or back work do to the nature of the pec ties ins to those opposing muscles.
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I only train legs once a week now as it is, ever since I went to once a week my gains really started coming in. Such a large area of muscle tearing them down once a week is more than enough.

I'm not even going to attempt any upper body workouts for at least the next 3 weeks. Side delts would be out of the question at the moment, too much stress on the chest right now, maybe it will get better.

I'm mainly just going to concentrate on eating clean and allowing this time to be my "Cutting" time, I can really dedicate myself to it since it will be the only training I can really do.

How long did it take your pec tear to heal and how major was it? Did yours require surgery?

Do you or anyone else for that matter have any input on the addition of HGH during the recovery phase, which I would put (depending on severity) at the very least 2 months-6months maybe a full year.

I remember reading years ago about someone who I think injured their shoulder and added HGH during their recovery and it had a fairly large inpact on their recovery.

My only concern is that it may be pointless for me personally because of my age, being that I am 25 right now and I dont have supressed/decreased levels yet.
 
Here is another shot, now 20hrs after the inital tear. I'm starting to see an indentation there in the towards the top of the big red blur, see the lighter red line going down kinda vertical.

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GeneticMutation said:
Jesus.. dude I can literally FEEL your pain just by looking at those pics!

Get well soon man!
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Thanks, shit if you could see this in person you'd be like WTF? Like most people, freaks them out.
 
the body has amazing ability to heal itself... (especially with the help of a good doc) you'll be back in full training no time bro... just keep your head up in the meantime!!


~Papa Lion~
 
aww sheet man thats looks bad. hope everything pans out, glad to hear your already in line with a specialist.
 
Thanks bros!! At least on the bright side, I dont have to do shit during sex but lay there. LMAO

I really wish this brusing and swelling would finally peak. Its just gradually getting worse. Still putting it on ice 20 minutes of every hour. I think I'll finally be able to sleep tonight. I have not slept since noon yesterday. I need sleep so bad to at least give my body a freaking rest and time to recoup.

Still wondering about the HGH bros anyone got any experience or solid advice PRO or CON??
 
Good luck bro ... I partially tore mine last year (no bruising) and it still is giving me trouble. Have gotten MRI and ultrasound and orthopedic assesments and theyve all come back good.

I trained BJJ all summer and fall with it being just a minor nuisance but I think I just made a bunch of scar tissue. Regardless its frustrating as fuck but fortunatley for me I dont plan/want/or need to do heavy lifting or put on size ever again.

This injury for me has been a blessing in disquise TBH because it humbles you, makes you look to other outlets for a healthy lifestyle, and has gotten my cardio up to par.

Good luck ...

*Also Kurt Angle had this happen 4 months before he won gold in 96'. Got surgery, healed and was good to go. Hes obviously a frak mentally and physically but keep your head up, if its a tendon rupture, or muscle detatched from tendon or bone its an extremely successful surgery and most people fully recover between 4 and 6 months.


***also with regards to GH ... Id go the IGF route whether its rehab or surgery. GH mediates it effect though IGF anyways ... this way you keep your pituiatary pumping out natty GH, and can shoot 20mcg IGF into the affected chst eod.

Theres numerous studies that prove IGF1 to be better @ healing muscle tears in animals and also increasing collagen synthesis (tendons material) by something like 575%.
 
Yes see a real MD ASAP, are your sure it is not a biceps tendon tear, because I tore my and it looked just like that.

It can be repaired but you need to see an orthopedic surgeon/sports medicine guy soon.
 
I didnt read through most the replies..that looks horrible man, i hope you heal quick.
 
solidspine said:
Yes see a real MD ASAP, are your sure it is not a biceps tendon tear, because I tore my and it looked just like that.

It can be repaired but you need to see an orthopedic surgeon/sports medicine guy soon.
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Yes I am completely 100% sure it is not a bicep tendon tear, reason being is I have complete range of motion in my bicep and now my whole pec is starting to swell up, it is way tighter to the touch than the other side, no brusing though. It is actually getting sore now all the way across my pec all the way to the muscle connections at the sternum.
 
Wow! I tore mine on the flat bench on 7/1 and I had bruising but nowhere near that dark. I just recently put up 225 on the incline for 10-which is still a far cry from the 405 I used to get for 6. I just rehabed it slow on my own with light weights, but there's still a 2 inch hole indented on that side now. Yours looks like you might need to go under the knife. I don't envy you.
 
Roc86 said:
Good luck bro ... I partially tore mine last year (no bruising) and it still is giving me trouble. Have gotten MRI and ultrasound and orthopedic assesments and theyve all come back good.

I trained BJJ all summer and fall with it being just a minor nuisance but I think I just made a bunch of scar tissue. Regardless its frustrating as fuck but fortunatley for me I dont plan/want/or need to do heavy lifting or put on size ever again.

This injury for me has been a blessing in disquise TBH because it humbles you, makes you look to other outlets for a healthy lifestyle, and has gotten my cardio up to par.

Good luck ...

*Also Kurt Angle had this happen 4 months before he won gold in 96'. Got surgery, healed and was good to go. Hes obviously a frak mentally and physically but keep your head up, if its a tendon rupture, or muscle detatched from tendon or bone its an extremely successful surgery and most people fully recover between 4 and 6 months.


***also with regards to GH ... Id go the IGF route whether its rehab or surgery. GH mediates it effect though IGF anyways ... this way you keep your pituiatary pumping out natty GH, and can shoot 20mcg IGF into the affected chst eod.

Theres numerous studies that prove IGF1 to be better @ healing muscle tears in animals and also increasing collagen synthesis (tendons material) by something like 575%.
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Yeah I have had my thoughts about IGF1 as I was going to do that with my current cycle in about a month or two. I just remember someone having some good results with I think was a tendon/ligament injury. IGF for the immeadiate future would be the better of the two, formost for the time of beneficial effects onset. Were talking weeks instead of months.

Thanks for the info bro. I'll be picking up some IGF in a week or two. I'm thinking along the lines of a low dosage like you suggested. I wont be working out chest anytime soon except for maybe PT so the idea that more receptors will be open/avail would be lessened and possibly leave more room for the igf to bind to the intestines instead of muscle receptors.
 
BigCracker said:
Wow! I tore mine on the flat bench on 7/1 and I had bruising but nowhere near that dark. I just recently put up 225 on the incline for 10-which is still a far cry from the 405 I used to get for 6. I just rehabed it slow on my own with light weights, but there's still a 2 inch hole indented on that side now. Yours looks like you might need to go under the knife. I don't envy you.
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Yeah i remember reading your post when I did the search for torn pec this week. Yours was titled something like fucking pec tear. That was my inital idea for a title too.

How long did you wait to start lifting again? Did you decide on a set amount of time or was it just that you got to a point where you felt comfortable picking stuff up. Right now i'm far from thinking about lifting, I FEAR right now just having an accident and tripping and falling over and by natural reaction trying to catch myself a I fall. That would fuckng hurt like hell.
 
and another pic now 38hrs later. I finally got some sleep last night. 6 good hours since Thursday morning. It really sucks trying to sleep in one spot all night.

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hope you heal up soon man...

I used to lift mega weight all the time ,then during heavy incline presses my shoulder slipped out of socket went to the hospital had it reset .. I was forced to drop back the weight and stay in the 10-15 rep range .
a strange thing happened I made much better quality muscle gains then when I had lifted in the 1 rep max and 3-6 rep range..

all those year lifting heavy to stimulate the white muscle fibers ... and come to find out I am a red muscle fiber kinda guy...who woulda every know.

when you do heal gradually build up the weight again don't go gunho
 
chazk said:
hope you heal up soon man...

I used to lift mega weight all the time ,then during heavy incline presses my shoulder slipped out of socket went to the hospital had it reset .. I was forced to drop back the weight and stay in the 10-15 rep range .
a strange thing happened I made much better quality muscle gains then when I had lifted in the 1 rep max and 3-6 rep range..

all those year lifting heavy to stimulate the white muscle fibers ... and come to find out I am a red muscle fiber kinda guy...who woulda every know.

when you do heal gradually build up the weight again don't go gunho
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Thanks bro, yeah I will take it slow. I never thought I'd say, (right now) that I am actually afraid to go heavy again. That will pass with time though. I almost never do a 1-3 rep range because I lift by myself and I dont go heavy enough to need a spotter. I couldnt tell you the last time I maxed out. I just remember what I did and come home and plug it into a rep max calculator, but even those are kinda inaccurate. My roomate has a shitty weight bench here and I loaded up everything I could on his bar and got bored one day. I decided to see how many times I could do the ~140 in a row, went and calculated the rep max i and it was somthing crazy like 400.
 
Bro I did the same thing 3 weeks ago..it felt like I got hit with an icepick!! I went right to the hospital for x-rays and it wasn't off the bone, so no surgery..just rest....and Vicoden..My bruising was from the end of my bicep ,up the chest and down my ribcage..not nice. I went to accupunture and that REALLY HELPED..seriously. I firmly believe the HGH speeds up the process also. Yesterday I was able to do cardio and arm machines..DO NOT try any "push" lifts!! Take a couple weeks off(totally) and see how you feel after that. Keep it in a sling for up to 3 days and just rest it. Doc told me if I didn't have a good spot(315) it would have totally tore off the bone..so it could always be worse!! Rest up bro.......
 
Yes I am completely 100% sure it is not a bicep tendon tear, reason being is I have complete range of motion in my bicep and now my whole pec is starting to swell up, it is way tighter to the touch than the other side, no brusing though. It is actually getting sore now all the way across my pec all the way to the muscle connections at the sternum.
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Ouch,

I’m fairly certain a surgeon can help you on Wednesday
 
1Mistake2006 said:
Bro I did the same thing 3 weeks ago..it felt like I got hit with an icepick!! I went right to the hospital for x-rays and it wasn't off the bone, so no surgery..just rest....and Vicoden..My bruising was from the end of my bicep ,up the chest and down my ribcage..not nice. I went to accupunture and that REALLY HELPED..seriously. I firmly believe the HGH speeds up the process also. Yesterday I was able to do cardio and arm machines..DO NOT try any "push" lifts!! Take a couple weeks off(totally) and see how you feel after that. Keep it in a sling for up to 3 days and just rest it. Doc told me if I didn't have a good spot(315) it would have totally tore off the bone..so it could always be worse!! Rest up bro.......
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Damn bro sorry to hear that, I feel your pain! Your brusing seems to sound way worse than mine. I have no brusing in my chest or ribcage. Although my entire left pec is really swollen. At least I have noticed decreased swelling in the brusing area, guess the major bleeding has stopped. I do have a sling that I wear when I leave the house to keep the movement down. I have not thought of accupunture, i'll have to look into that. I dont know if there is anywhere in my town or our twin city though.
 
For me I am finally able to start running again. The bouncing of the chest while running felt brutal ... so for cardio the bike, steppper, and something that will help keeping the blood going to your back arms and shoulders is the rower.

I row for like 30-45 minutes a few times a week between other cardio. I dont use AAS but I have hardly lost any muscle at all aside from maybe some neck/trap thickness.

Good for the cardio and the pump ... also keeping good posture keeps the strain off your chest aswell.
 
man partner that hurts me jus lookin at it. thats somethin i never really thought much bout, but i know it could happen at anytime. sure hope it heals quick an don't let it get to ya, jus one of them minor setbacks,(not to minor in your case though). wonder if there's much you can do to prevent tears like this, maybe more stretchin? don't know, anybody have any input on this
 
redneck77 said:
man partner that hurts me jus lookin at it. thats somethin i never really thought much bout, but i know it could happen at anytime. sure hope it heals quick an don't let it get to ya, jus one of them minor setbacks,(not to minor in your case though). wonder if there's much you can do to prevent tears like this, maybe more stretchin? don't know, anybody have any input on this
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Yeah I hope its minor but by looking at the next pic i'm gonna post, its looking like it could be a larger problem that I thought. This morning I thought it was getting a little better, even though it looked worse, cause the swelling had gone down in my arm, but now my left pec is really swolen and noticable enough that people can tell the difference when I am wearing a shirt. It just bulges out.

I dont think there was much more stretching I could have done. I stretch for about 2 minutes before warming up and stretch inbetween each set. I had actually increased my stretching recently because I was having minor pains the month before, in both pecs, and had to lay off of doing bench for a week or so, twice during that month. I had just gotten back to the point that I was not having any pain in my chest for the previous 3 weeks and everything seemed back to normal. Boy was I wrong, no warning and snap, its fucked.
 
Damit it just keeps looking worse and worse as time goes by. Here is another pic from 52hrs after the tear.

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Bro,
Tore my peck last September. There was no blood like yours, I just knew it. I could hear it tear. 3 docs did not think it was much. I begged the 4th doc to move forward with surgery. Good thing I did, it was ripped from bone and tore half way down pec muscle. Even with the MRI these guys could not see the tear.
Some advice for you. See 3 docs, all related to sports injury. i.e. local NFL, NBA, or college sports programs. If you have a choice to make about surgery, just do it, you will be happier in the long run. . .let me know which state you are in I might be able to help you with my doc.

drGlute
 
1Mistake2006 said:
don't freak out bro..the bruising will get worse the 1st week..after 2 weeks it'll start to go away..just REST!!!!!!
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LOL, yeah im finished freaking out about the time I was at the gym and decided to go to the doc in the box. The more the bleeding spreads just makes me wonder how bad it may be considering the difference in the photo from the first 2 hours.
 
iHulk said:
holy shit bro. Hope for a speedy recovery bro. that looks painful
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Thanks bro, the pain is not so bad now, been medicating with pain killers and muscle relaxers for the duration, but i'm going to have to go in the AM and ask for a refil cause i'm about out. The pain is not as bad as the pics look, thankfully.
 
ViperHMS said:
I have an appt. schedueled with a specialist at a sports medicine clininc on Wed. It was the soonest appt. available. I chose to go to the doc in a box last night cause i knew I was going to need something for the pain. That was about all it was good for. I have spent most of last night and today researching the options. If surgery is needed i'm going to take it ASAP. I hope there are no underlying tendons that got torn or detached too.
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Aaaactually as one who has had two total evulsed (detatched) tendons. a torn tendon is better than a torn muscle that has torn away from the tendon. A tendon that tears off the bone has something solid to be attatched to (bone) where a muscle is like trying to attatch shreeded beef. Thats the problem with pec tears. (mine was bicep and quad) Good luck my man. BTW, you would not happen to be on Dbol would you?

Quad
 
Quadsweep said:
Aaaactually as one who has had two total evulsed (detatched) tendons. a torn tendon is better than a torn muscle that has torn away from the tendon. A tendon that tears off the bone has something solid to be attatched to (bone) where a muscle is like trying to attatch shreeded beef. Thats the problem with pec tears. (mine was bicep and quad) Good luck my man. BTW, you would not happen to be on Dbol would you?

Quad
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Humm, now I dont know what to hope for. I think i'm going to hope a fairy comes into my room at night, sprinkles some magic fairy dust on my chest and arm and it all goes away. LMAO

Nope no Dbol, I've been running prop at 100mg EOD and every now and then i'd toss in some tbol before my workout. I just couldnt keep up the regular dosing scheduel with tbol so i ended up just using it on workout days.
 
Well just left the doctors office. I have surgery in about two weeks. Apparently I tore the tendon from my chest right off the bone, so they are going to go in there and reattach it to my arm. I've got alot of rehab ahead of me.

Quadsweep, how long did rehab take for you with your detached tendons?? I'm figuring 6 months before I can really do any heavy lifting again.
 
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Here is another shot, now 20hrs after the inital tear. I'm starting to see an indentation there in the towards the top of the big red blur, see the lighter red line going down kinda vertical.

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jesus christ, is your arm bigger at the elbow than the shoulder? Is that how it always looks or are you having heavy swelling and internal bleading running down into the elbow?

Man that looks rough, best of luck. I pulled a peck once, nothing like what yours looks like. I still have problems with it, all light bench and pushups now. I am not really interested in a big bench ever again, stamina is where I am looking from now on.
 
D_Mac said:
jesus christ, is your arm bigger at the elbow than the shoulder? Is that how it always looks or are you having heavy swelling and internal bleading running down into the elbow?

Man that looks rough, best of luck. I pulled a peck once, nothing like what yours looks like. I still have problems with it, all light bench and pushups now. I am not really interested in a big bench ever again, stamina is where I am looking from now on.
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Yeah i had a bit of internal bleeding go all the way down to the elbow but no its not bigger at the elbow that at the shoulder. If you look at the pic right above your post, thats how far the bleeding went. Down to the very lower end of my tricep on the inside and where it reached the elbow.

Well I'm glad its surgery that i'm going thru instead of just hoping it heals on its own. The percentage of abilities after surgery vs it healing on its own is far better. I figure a year from now i'll be back to where I was, but I will not be going as heavy either. Tendons need a lot more time to strenthen up that muscles, so i'm going to have to hold myself back.
 
Well just had surgery this morning. Everything went great. They went in and attached some hooks to my tendon and ancored those hooks to my arm. I have a checkup in a few days and I guess I will get my rehab instructions and whatever else I need to know then. I'm glad its over with now except it hurts like fuck.
 
awesome that you are sewed back up
a few questions
is their anything to prevent this from happening? or is it nature of the game?
i feel a pain in my shoulder...starting to hurt outside the gym doing routine things.
you think i'm destined for some fucked up injury from bp'ing
i wonder if i should get out of bp'ing entirely :(
and do you have health insurance? what would've happened if you did not?
 
BLACKDOOG said:
Sorry to hear about that buddy. The same shit happen to me 5 years ago but it was my right pec and I had the same swelling. I did not go to the Dr. for mine. It healed back up but now I have a indentation between my pec and delt. I no longer flat bench only incline. Are you by chance using fucking creatine? that was the reason for my pec tearing. Fuck that shit.
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Rofl creatine caused his pec tear, now ive heard it all.
 
Gambino said:
awesome that you are sewed back up
a few questions
is their anything to prevent this from happening? or is it nature of the game?
i feel a pain in my shoulder...starting to hurt outside the gym doing routine things.
you think i'm destined for some fucked up injury from bp'ing
i wonder if i should get out of bp'ing entirely :(
and do you have health insurance? what would've happened if you did not?
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well really its just a matter of AAS use and the fact that they make the muscles stronger much quicker than your tendons can keep up with. It was my fault for not heeding the prior warning signs. I was having pains in my chest during workouts for 3 months or so prior and i'd take time off and then hit the gym again and within 2 weeks the pain would come back. I think I damaged the tendon once and then in the process of taking time off and getting back into the gym I just kept furthering the damage until the day it gave loose.

Yep I did have health insurance. Glad I did and i've got short term disability at work so i'll still be getting some money paid to me while i'm out of work for at least the next 6 weeks or so.
 
OMEGA said:
awesome

thanks for the update and best of luck

its time to learn form this and move on.

glad you are ok
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Thanks bro, yeah i've learned that i've got to make sure i'm not going so hard on the lb. gains in lifting and take some time to let my tendons catch up.

I'll have to get an updated pic when I get the dressings off. I get that done Thursday so I get to see what kind of scar i'm going to have then.
 
looks brutal, I hope you heal fast

I have to ask, how was your bench technique - did you use the BBing elbows out, high to the chest style or was is a closer grip with elbows in? that is one thing I do NOT want to be doing anytime soon
 
Glad all went well and best of luck with rehab...

Also
What's with blaming creatine ?

Those pics were ALMOST as gross as some of the Skank pics being posted in C&C.
 
ViperHMS said:
Well just had surgery this morning. Everything went great. They went in and attached some hooks to my tendon and ancored those hooks to my arm. I have a checkup in a few days and I guess I will get my rehab instructions and whatever else I need to know then. I'm glad its over with now except it hurts like fuck.
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good to hear mate best of luck
 
Gambino said:
awesome that you are sewed back up
a few questions
is their anything to prevent this from happening? or is it nature of the game?
i feel a pain in my shoulder...starting to hurt outside the gym doing routine things.
you think i'm destined for some fucked up injury from bp'ing
i wonder if i should get out of bp'ing entirely :(
and do you have health insurance? what would've happened if you did not?
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I think most AAS are not really good for your joints at high doses, although some at low doses have been shown to be beneficial (just something a buddy of mine told me, don't have any studies on hand). But I do know staying away from Winny is a good idea. Other than that, when your on a long cycle, and your strength is shooting up really fast, don't push yourself to the limit, increase reps, and maybe frequency of lifting, but slowly increase that weight. That and I think nice and slow, good form is helpful to avoid injury. The other thing I would say if you want to be really careful is limit the length of your cycles. Maybe do 4 or 5 weeks on then 6-8 weeks off back and forth, so your joints can catch up.
 
ViperHMS said:
Yeah i had a bit of internal bleeding go all the way down to the elbow but no its not bigger at the elbow that at the shoulder. If you look at the pic right above your post, thats how far the bleeding went. Down to the very lower end of my tricep on the inside and where it reached the elbow.

Well I'm glad its surgery that i'm going thru instead of just hoping it heals on its own. The percentage of abilities after surgery vs it healing on its own is far better. I figure a year from now i'll be back to where I was, but I will not be going as heavy either. Tendons need a lot more time to strenthen up that muscles, so i'm going to have to hold myself back.
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Good to hear you are on your way to recovery!
 
Re: Sheeeeet, tore my pec last night!!!! PICS INSIDE

ViperHMS said:
Just when I was getting into a good solid grove again, I tear my pec last night. Was progressing thru my flat bench workout. Warm up with 135, then to 185, then to 225. Next set was to be 265x8. First rep went down paused for a sec or two, then pushed up, no problems, no pain. Second rep I lowered the weight to my chest, paused, pushed maybe 1/2in and wham weight just falls and I feel my pec tear. It was just dead, holy crap did it scare the crap out of me. Thank god there were a few big guys close by that pulled the weight off of me.

It was too late(7pm) to go to a doctors office, so I drove across the street to the urgent care office and after waiting 2hrs finally got to see the doc. What a horrible doc. He didnt even ask me to raise my shirt. He just felt around til i told him where the pain was. After about 2 minutes of him pressing down on different places on my chest he says, yep you probably pulled something or strained a muscle. Here is a script for the pain and some muscle relaxers. Just go home and ice it down, no heat for at least 72hrs. That was it!!! I didnt even see the damage until i got home and finally got my shirt off. Here are the pics

2hrs after
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4hrs after
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This morning 16hrs after
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Anyone feel it might benefit me to try some HGH during the coming months of rehab?
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Ohhh that look bad, good luck with rehab sorry to hear of your injury
 
Tweakle said:
looks brutal, I hope you heal fast

I have to ask, how was your bench technique - did you use the BBing elbows out, high to the chest style or was is a closer grip with elbows in? that is one thing I do NOT want to be doing anytime soon
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My grip was somewhat close. My grip started about 2 inches out from where the bar is smooth and goes to the "grippy" area. The technique was more of elbows in going down and on the upward motion elbows are still tucked in until about 1/2 way up and then i'd flare them to about a 45 degree angle.

Now I wouldnt worry so much about the way I was lifting the weight, but that I was not listening to my body. I had an issue that kept appearing and I didnt back off the weights. Being on cycle its easy to just keep slapping on the plates and lifting more weight week in and week out. I kept going up in weight and not allowing proper time for my tendons to become strong enough to handle the increased weights. In hind-sight I should have not kept increasing each week as much and increased the reps. I should have kept my weight increases moderate and backed off at the first sign of pain in my chest. Lesson learned.
 
So just got back from seeing my surgeon and finally getting all the padding and tape ripped off my chest. I've got about 1 1/2"-2" cut across my chest towards my arm. I've got six weeks on "taking it easy" which will be me in a sling. Then after those 6 weeks I will start rehab and he said I should be able to start lifting lightly in about 3 months. So far so good, I only wish I was right handed because that would make life a lot less difficult right now. LOL

Thanks to everyone who chimed in and all the support and "get wells" I really appreciate it. Thanks for making this place feel like home.
 
What causes this to happen? Not stretching enough before lifting? Nutrition? Going to heavy? Just curious so I can try to avoid this.
 
perryscoon said:
What causes this to happen? Not stretching enough before lifting? Nutrition? Going to heavy? Just curious so I can try to avoid this.
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Read post #77 that pretty much sums it up. Tendons take a lot longer to become stronger than muscles do. When your on cycle and your muscles are getting stronger at a much higher rate that your tendons, if you keep upping the weight, your tendons are going to become taxed to their limits and tear.
 
So after all is said and done, I never want a injury like this again!!!!!! I've had my surgery and its now been almost 3 months prior to the surgery and i've turned into a fucking sorry sack of shit. Completely depressed about being crippled and in a sling for 10 weeks and not being able to do much, none the less getting the energy and will to go to the gym. I've not walked into a gym since April the 6th of this year when it happened.

I spent a few weeks in pain prior to surgery and a few weeks following the surgery and it completely destroyed my will to do anything productive, not to mention being on pain meds for a good deal of time. I was at my highest weight of 210ish at the time of the injury and a month later I was barely tipping the scales at 185......pathetic.......so much hard work getting up there and it was all washed away in such a short amount of time. Pain meds killed my appetite and I was lucky for the longest time to eat one meal a day.....WOW. I turned into a worthless turd these past 3 months with being on disability from work and unable to go to school. I got super lazy and spent most of my time either watching movies on my ass or drinking a lot with friends. That lead to the 10lbs of crap I added to my body in that time. I never wish any of you have any injury of this sort!!!!! I should have spent some of my free time on these boards with everyone to help keep myself motivated to not let myself go........now I'm gonna come back and start doing that again and returning to the gym to reclaim my body.

I'm not so excited about trying to bench again because my doctor told me that I can now, but that I need to spend a few weeks working only with the BAR.......talk about rock bottom!!!!! Anyway ladies and gents its time for me to start hanging out on the board with all of you great people. Thanks to everyone that wished me a good and speedy recovery I appreciate all of it greatly.
 
Damn dawg, I read through your experience, and all I can say is good luck. I had a similar situation with a back injury that put me down for 6 months. I was jacked at 255 then. Out of shape 250 now. Pisses me off.

Still struggling with dumping bad habits and getting dialed in. I've got a nice cycle sitting in the other room ready to go too lol, even have a pin and a vial in the drawer ready. Just don't think I deserve it yet, I gotta get right or it ain't worth it!

You'll get there bro, hopefully sooner than later. Good luck cuz.
 
jumpshot said:
Damn dawg, I read through your experience, and all I can say is good luck. I had a similar situation with a back injury that put me down for 6 months. I was jacked at 255 then. Out of shape 250 now. Pisses me off.

Still struggling with dumping bad habits and getting dialed in. I've got a nice cycle sitting in the other room ready to go too lol, even have a pin and a vial in the drawer ready. Just don't think I deserve it yet, I gotta get right or it ain't worth it!

You'll get there bro, hopefully sooner than later. Good luck cuz.
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I hear ya man, its a pain just trying to get out of that gutter. I just went back to work for the first time in 3 months last week. I'm waking up now at times where I had gotten used to going to bed at. I think being down 3 months is bad, shit your on month 6 thats gotta be rough!!!!!

Good luck to you too!
 
I'll post my chest up after I shave a bit. Don't won't to hear the gorilla comments. I tore the hell out of mine, entire left chest turned black. It never hurt though and I went to a dr. and dumbass said it was just pulled. I have a hole to prove otherwise. I immediately started doing one arm benchpresses and didn't layoff lifting at all.. This happened 3 1/2 years ago. It's a permanent injury, probably lost 20% strength on chest presses on left side and it's tight, but I don't let it bother me. I just back off when I feel too much tightness..
 
that looks like the tendon was ripped out of the bicipital groove of the humerus (where it inserts) and if it did they will need to screw it into a new location like they did with Dorian Yate's bicep tear.
 
damn dog dont let it discourage you and end your BB carrer

like 2pac says
"keep ya head up"
oooo child things are gonna get easier, ooo child things will get brighter"

haha good song download it !
 
ShowKidd said:
that looks like the tendon was ripped out of the bicipital groove of the humerus (where it inserts) and if it did they will need to screw it into a new location like they did with Dorian Yate's bicep tear.
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It was and they roughed up the bone to make it bleed well and then drilled some holes in the bone to anchor the "hooks" into the bone and ran stitches thru everything to help it reattach itself. I was in a sling for 5 weeks after surgery and was to refrain from all movement of my left arm.
 
Damn that shit is scary bro.makes me rethink going heavy now on my bench. Anyone know of a good tendon/ligament sopport cause I think i jacked something up in my forearms cause of this issue :bigbuck:
 
I had much heavier bruising and covering a larger area but I think my muscle tore from the tendon and not the tendon from the bone.
 
ViperHMS said:
I hear ya man, its a pain just trying to get out of that gutter. I just went back to work for the first time in 3 months last week. I'm waking up now at times where I had gotten used to going to bed at. I think being down 3 months is bad, shit your on month 6 thats gotta be rough!!!!!

Good luck to you too!
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Lower back shit is a killer. There's not really anything I do that doesn't utilize those muscles. Problem compounded with being out of shape, and putting on a fat-belt around my waist. Gotta cut that down and strengthen the core first (for me), and start lifting. Heavy lifting is a ways down the road.

Cardio always comes first for me.
 
jumpshot said:
Lower back shit is a killer. There's not really anything I do that doesn't utilize those muscles. Problem compounded with being out of shape, and putting on a fat-belt around my waist. Gotta cut that down and strengthen the core first (for me), and start lifting. Heavy lifting is a ways down the road.

Cardio always comes first for me.
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Yeah heavy lifting is a ways down the road for me too. I'm still worried about doing push-ups. I'm just gonna start doing a lot of cardio and high rep low weight workouts, which is something i have not done in years. It will be good for me. One day i'll be benching over 300 again! Maybe in a few years, I dunno.
 
did you take g h during the healing? 10 weeks post RC tear I was benching at 95% with almost no pain (although I'll admit my tear wasn't anything like as bad as your pec)
 
Tweakle said:
did you take g h during the healing? 10 weeks post RC tear I was benching at 95% with almost no pain (although I'll admit my tear wasn't anything like as bad as your pec)
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Nope I didnt add any HGH like I wanted too, but I dont think it would have made a great deal of difference. I was in a sling for 5 weeks prior to surgery so my arm/chest was getting absolutely no movement and I didnt start any rehab until about the 7th week and that had not involved any chest movements, all the rehab I was doing was to strengthen my shoulder.
 
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